Yoshi P, please use future development time on content other than Hildibrand.

[XgungraveX]

Guess what, extremely hard content is part of what a MMO is as well. Though we may not be as many as the people who want Hildi, we want Savage Coil.

If a MMO can't keep its most hardcore players around, it has no future in my opinion.

LOL what pays more a handful of *hardcore* players or the casual crowd.....

[StrejdaTom]

Could every raider here calm down and not act like we won't get any new hard content if Hildibrand content keeps coming out? Thanks.

[Taruinatho]

Posting in a troll thread.

[Krr]

Is this a troll thread?

I swear to god this is a troll thread, you guys.

[Taruinatho]

im tumbler funy

i guess the tag brought you here

[Kuwagami]

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welcome in a forum, where quoting someone actually means you either agree (but you would have said so) or disagree with the post. Also your point was bad. Of course elite players want elite content. That's a given. That's not what the OP asked for so you missed an other point by a far margin. Way to go.

Also, without the "hardcore people" that you are thinking about, the game would just be a better place with people playing primarily for fun, with no stress and pressure about results. It doesn't mean there can't be difficult content however. Or that people wouldn't be dedicated.


And the OF won't miss an elitist like you are, don't let the door hit you on the way back.

You're implying hardcore players are not "playing primarily for fun" there, yes? I'll break it to you, yes we play for fun even if it means we have to play with stress and pressure about results. The end result is even better. But that I doubt you can comprehend.

If you want to talk about missing points, I invite you going back to this thread and to look back at your post, where you absolutely missed my entire point. http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post2664156

It's like your sole existence is restricted to looking like a total moron on forums no one cares about. Hence, this will be the last time I reply to you. Good evening.

You might want to learn what irony is. It would have served you well there.
And relief (after beating one's head against the walls for hours) =/= fun. But you might not want to hear that. You're not what you think you are. Your kind of people seek challenge (no pun intended) above fun. Yes you find having a challenge fun, but once it stops being a challenge you lose interest in it (oh look at the post you linked here, my point being proved..).

[Inkin]

Also, without the "hardcore people" that you are thinking about, the game would just be a better place with people playing primarily for fun, with no stress and pressure about results. It doesn't mean there can't be difficult content however. Or that people wouldn't be dedicated.

You're implying hardcore players are not "playing primarily for fun" there, yes? I'll break it to you, yes we play for fun even if it means we have to play with stress and pressure about results. The end result is even better. But that I doubt you can comprehend.

If you want to talk about missing points, I invite you going back to this thread and to look back at your post, where you absolutely missed my entire point. http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post2664156

It's like your sole existence is restricted to looking like a total moron on forums no one cares about. Hence, this will be the last time I reply to you. Good evening.

(and no, blaming it on irony won't make your point look valid all of a sudden, you're still a retard that's shitposted 2,250 times solely in the past year, way to go)

[Cailae]

I don't get all the hate going on here. Don't get me wrong, I cannot stand the Hildebrand quests, I've hated the guy since 1.0, the only effect it has on me though is I can't queue for Trial Roulette. Any trial I NEED to get done other people doing the roulette end up with me. Requiring me to have it done just hurts other people, really, since I'll never end up in their queue. Would I prefer not to have the requirement? sure! but the small bonus for doing them just isn't compelling enough to do content I hate. If people enjoy him, let people enjoy him. If you don't, then stay away. There's better/faster ways to get the roulette rewards anyway. I just feel bad for the increased queue times for really low level trials that are in there, who end up waiting longer because of it.

[TheGrimace]

I pretty much won't congregate with anyone who doesn't like Hildibrand. They are simply not appreciative of art in its highest form. I bet most don't even know what "dada" is. Charlatans!

[Izsha]

welcome in a forum, where quoting someone actually means you either agree (but you would have said so) or disagree with the post. Also your point was bad. Of course elite players want elite content. That's a given. That's not what the OP asked for so you missed an other point by a far margin. Way to go.

Also, without the "hardcore people" that you are thinking about, the game would just be a better place with people playing primarily for fun, with no stress and pressure about results. It doesn't mean there can't be difficult content however. Or that people wouldn't be dedicated.


And the OF won't miss an elitist like you are, don't let the door hit you on the way back.

Oy more dumb us vs them. The community won't magically become all unicorns and rainbows if there's no raiding scene. There are tons of MMOs now and in the past with very light or no serious endgame. Communities suck there too. It's a terrible misnomer that driving away endgame will automagically make people stop being dicks. I'm pretty sure elitists arent the reason hunts are still a whiney shoutfest, or ct is full of trolls, or 80% of the population can't beat t5. No specific sub group of players is the cause of all community problems in this game. A holes are the reason for crappy community and anyone from a weekend warrior to Collision members can be a holes.

on topic, I personally don't care for hildy or savage coil. Just don't bundle different sets of optional content together. Give players the freedom to choose what they want to do without being hamstrung. And before the 50th person says trial roulette and hildy are both optional so it doesn't matter! Flip the script. Golden saucer is optional, coil is optional. So no one would care if coil gates saucer right? See how dumb that logic is? There's no harm in just keeping it separate. I don't see why there's a big push back to untie it from duty roulette or untie it from saucer. Why is that so unpalatable exactly?