The Great Betrayal!

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the forbidden land of eureka and the world of darkness are never stated as the void directly and using dissidia exdeath the one titled 'guardian of the void' and 'god of nothingness' when he fights cloud of darkness says 'The Void you desire is false.' meaning the world of darkness may not be a true void, but still in the eyes of the warriors of darkness they saw the warriors of light being evil and if i recall don't they kill the 'flood of light' as the warriors of light kill the 'cloud of darkness'?

Err, Rammbroes or graha cleary says that the world of darkness is how the allagan named the void, and the cloud of darkness is not the cloud of the world of darkness, it's darkess for void, the cloud is a being of the void that is here to destroy the world engulf it in his dark cloudness ( if you can say that ) where time is stopped, it appear when the world isn't balanced, may it be because of light or darkness, so there isn't any cloud food light or wathever. The warriors of darkness aren't the ennemies of the warriors of light as they have the same goal. And I wouldn't take anything from Dissidia if I were you.

[DracotheDragon]

sneep

that is within FFXIV, i am talking within FFIII where the original lore was stated, this cloud of darkness has been taken and altered to fit within the world of FFXIV and its established lore, as for disced yes it is a side story set in world B but it still would play on the fact of the characters original land and was only used a s a reference to FFIII's world of darkness NOT FFXIV's world of darkness.

as with the warriors of darkness using other games in which they have appeared are the polar opposites and enemies of the warriors of light (then normal combine to fight a evil stronger then what they had intended this includes multiple spin offs as well as ffiii) also FFIII's cloud of darkness was 'banished' from the world of darkness, that could be on how they tied this entity to the one we are seeing in FFXIV. just saying if your going to use the lore on a area / entity that is infused with multiple lores and settings it becomes a rather confusing mess,

also the allag empire froze time by its own mages, that was stated to prevent there destruction, that had nothing to do with the void- entity that we will be facing,

the confusing ness of this entity is followed along other characters such as ultros typhoon and gilgimesh typhon and ultras are monsters from the world of balance not creatures of the void, and gilgimesh was human not voidscent in FF-type-0 he even talks about his village of birth. but in other final fantasy's he is referred to as a void like creature or one with no birthplace, a contradiction.

aka TIMEY-WIMEY WIBBALY WOBBALY

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as with the warriors of darkness using other games in which they have appeared are the polar opposites and enemies of the warriors of light

In wich games ? Because warriors of darkness only appear in FF 3 and FF Dimensions and they are good guys in both games.

[Huntington]

Didn't we already do the grand "Scions secret base is attacked, everyone is broken up and must survive until they can regroup, some lives are lost" and so on. Doing that again seems redundant.

[Viridiana]

Didn't we already do the grand "Scions secret base is attacked, everyone is broken up and must survive until they can regroup, some lives are lost" and so on. Doing that again seems redundant.

Kind of, only this time they seem to put up much more of a fight. Last time it was basically a slaughter. Based on the trailer, I wouldn't be surprised at all to see everyone pull through and re-group.

Also, not seeing where people are getting the idea of a betrayal in the trailer. . .

[gamesmart]

Kind of, only this time they seem to put up much more of a fight. Last time it was basically a slaughter. Based on the trailer, I wouldn't be surprised at all to see everyone pull through and re-group.

Also, not seeing where people are getting the idea of a betrayal in the trailer. . .

The WoL's crystals seem to be getting weakened/broken, so something's going to be happening to us at least. Whether that escalates into an actual betrayal...we'll just have to see next week.

[lololink]

The WoL's crystals seem to be getting weakened/broken, so something's going to be happening to us at least. Whether that escalates into an actual betrayal...we'll just have to see next week.

Hydaelyn and the crystals of light were already weakened after the battle against Ultima it's just that now we are really seeing that we are alone against the ascian.

[Viridiana]

The WoL's crystals seem to be getting weakened/broken, so something's going to be happening to us at least. Whether that escalates into an actual betrayal...we'll just have to see next week.

Quoting myself from the Lore section:

"I see two possible setups for this. I'm thinking either the Ascians make a move that drains them; or we willingly consume their aether, itself probably a means of gathering power to attack the Ascians."

There's nothing about that situation that remotely makes me think betrayal.

[EdwinLi]

Kind of, only this time they seem to put up much more of a fight. Last time it was basically a slaughter. Based on the trailer, I wouldn't be surprised at all to see everyone pull through and re-group.

Also, not seeing where people are getting the idea of a betrayal in the trailer. . .

There are Ul'dah members attacking the Scions.

There have been some hypothesis that one of the City-States may be attacking the Scions under the order of Teledji due to his crave for Power.

(Which is partly why he wanted Omega Weapon since with it his power will be unmatched by any Nation and nothing will stop him from taking what he wants with Omega Weapon)

[Viridiana]

There are Ul'dah members attacking the Scions.

I took a second look at it, and I don't think that's what's actually going on. If Ul'dah were attacking the Scions in outright betrayal, I would expect it to happen in Mor Dhona. All the fighting in the trailer occurs in Ul'dah proper, where we're also shown all the leaders present. I suspect that it's actually a betrayal of Nanamo, and that the Scion, already present for the gathering, are holding off the Blades.