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    Quote Originally Posted by Dubont View Post
    you are misinterpreting the idea of "mastering" a craft. Nowhere, at all, did ANY of the devs or representatives say anything about only being able to rank 1 crafting class. THIS IS WHAT YOU ARE NOT UNDERSTANDING!!!!!! By "master" they could mean you gain abilities that those that aren't "mastered" do not have, BUT YOU STILL HAVE MAX RANK ON IT! Jesus...it isn't THAT hard to understand...at any rate, it's all pure speculation at this point and I feel like you just needed something to hate SE for..
    god *bangs head on desk*

    lets have another mini pull please. If you rank a job to 50 and are locked out of some abilites that make you a master is that limiting the job or is that NOT limiting the job?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DNO View Post
    god *bangs head on desk*

    lets have another mini pull please. If you rank a job to 50 and are locked out of some abilites that make you a master is that limiting the job or is that NOT limiting the job?
    as long as we can level it to 50 still i am 100% ok with it
    and thats what I personaly have been pointing out they probly will do

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    as long as we can level it to 50 still i am 100% ok with it
    and thats what I personaly have been pointing out they probly will do
    thank you i see. But i disagree.
    Why would you want to rank a craft and spend 3-4 months to rank it then be told you can not make the level 50 ring? Does that make sense? you can be fine with it but i am not.

    thats like ranking MRD 1st then going to Pug and saying "o i can not get featherfoot"...... i'd say.... why? i put in the same amount of work you did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DNO View Post
    god *bangs head on desk*

    lets have another mini pull please. If you rank a job to 50 and are locked out of some abilites that make you a master is that limiting the job or is that NOT limiting the job?
    it isn't limiting the job at all. It is limiting what you can do with the job, but it isn't limiting the job. Your argument seems to be along the lines of "ZOMG CON CAN'T USE SWORDZ!!! CON SO LIMITED!!" As long as the job can reach max level and still be hella useful, it isn't being limited. Hey, THM can't use Raise 2...MRD can't use speed surge...so many limits. Gah this game sucks doesn't it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dubont View Post
    it isn't limiting the job at all. It is limiting what you can do with the job, but it isn't limiting the job. Your argument seems to be along the lines of "ZOMG CON CAN'T USE SWORDZ!!! CON SO LIMITED!!" As long as the job can reach max level and still be hella useful, it isn't being limited. Hey, THM can't use Raise 2...MRD can't use speed surge...so many limits. Gah this game sucks doesn't it?

    wow you are truely not getting the point.... its crazy.

    CON................ and sword.................. how does that even....

    since its my thread i wont just ignore you but i will give you a true example unlike yours..

    its actually like saying CON can not get AM tier 2. or CON can not get merits. to MASTER jobs in FF11 u need merits that only that job can use. try going into endgame without a merited BLM and see how "limited" you are in ff11.

    get this PLEASE GET THIS.

    if you are mastering CON WHY DOES HE NEED A SWORD???????

    If there are things that other BSM can do and i am not allowed even tho im rank 50 then thats limiting it... dude please get this....
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    Quote Originally Posted by DNO View Post
    wow you are truely not getting the point.... its crazy.

    CON................ and sword.................. how does that even....

    since its my thread i wont just ignore you but i will give you a true example unlike yours..

    its actually like saying CON can not get AM tier 2. or CON can not get merits. to MASTER jobs in FF11 u need merits that only that job can use. try going into endgame without a merited BLM and see how "limited" you are in ff11.

    get this PLEASE GET THIS.

    if you are mastering CON WHY DOES HE NEED A SWORD???????

    If there are things that other BSM can do and i am not allowed even tho im rank 50 then thats limiting it... dude please get this....
    WOOOOOSH right over your head. My post about the CON was in regards to you QQing about limits. If you can't do something that another BSM can, too bad. You made the decision and now you have to live with it. Guess what, you can do something that he can't. WOOHOO! It isn't limiting. It is called decision making. Life is all about decisions. MMOs should be as well. Hey guess what, in Infamous, if you go evil, you don't get the energy regen from your lightning bolt...gah...so limiting...
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    Healer strike is ridiculously foolish and accomplishes nothing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dubont View Post
    WOOOOOSH right over your head. My post about the CON was in regards to you QQing about limits. If you can't do something that another BSM can, too bad. You made the decision and now you have to live with it. Guess what, you can do something that he can't. WOOHOO! It isn't limiting. It is called decision making. Life is all about decisions. MMOs should be as well. Hey guess what, in Infamous, if you go evil, you don't get the energy regen from your lightning bolt...gah...so limiting...

    Yes but if you would listen for one second you would realize not point was better for this convo. . All i am saying is crafts did not have a limit before. (keep up) now if they put in a limit or a mastery you are now locked out of all other classes. which means you have a LIMIT to what classes you can craft.

    You said if its just a mastery thing then you choose one class. but if you have the other classes leveled they will be LIMITED (keep up) compared to other classes. what is so hard to get. If i choose to main BSM and i also have GLD on rank 50 then my GLD is limted compared to someone who main GLD. So i will have to seek a GLD rank 50 for his "mastery" when i already have a rank 50 GLD???? thats silly thats a LIMT

    WOOSH right over YOUR head because im not asking to use swords on a CON. I am asking to use mastery on CON THM and MRD if i rank them to 50
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    Quote Originally Posted by DNO View Post
    god *bangs head on desk*

    lets have another mini pull please. If you rank a job to 50 and are locked out of some abilites that make you a master is that limiting the job or is that NOT limiting the job?
    Well if you want to feed the conjecture beast, at least try and tie it to something also called master, which is already implemented... like...

    You have Attained Goldsmith Rank 100. (arbitrary max level)
    You have learned the ability Quality Shiny Goodness II.
    A glow emanates from your Linkpearl
    "Hello, is this Dno Sensei? I have a serious question for you, in regards to your talents as a Goldsmith. We are in need of a master craftsman. The rewards you can reap in committing to our guild can be vast, but the dedication needed for this role should not be taken lightly. If you choose to dedicate your time to this guild, please visit at your earliest convenience."

    New quest added: To become a master Goldsmith
    Reward ability: Master Goldsmith Spell. (Able to boost Goldsmith crafting ability for any player, without needing to visit the guild. Buff is latent [always on] for yourself. Only one craft master ability can be retained at any time, but can be replaced by another guild, if prerequisites have been met.)
    New tier of R100 recipes accessable, which require master buff to attempt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duuude007 View Post
    Well if you want to feed the conjecture beast, at least try and tie it to something also called master, which is already implemented... like...

    You have Attained Goldsmith Rank 100. (arbitrary max level)
    You have learned the ability Quality Shiny Goodness II.
    A glow emanates from your Linkpearl
    "Hello, is this Dno Sensei? I have a serious question for you, in regards to your talents as a Goldsmith. We are in need of a master craftsman. The rewards you can reap in committing to our guild can be vast, but the dedication needed for this role should not be taken lightly. If you choose to dedicate your time to this guild, please visit at your earliest convenience."

    New quest added: To become a master Goldsmith
    Reward ability: Master Goldsmith Spell. (Able to boost Goldsmith crafting ability for any player, without needing to visit the guild. Buff is latent [always on] for yourself. Only one craft master ability can be retained at any time, but can be replaced by another guild, if prerequisites have been met.)
    New tier of R100 recipes accessable, which require master buff to attempt.
    this makes sense...but it makes too much sense for the OP to understand because it isn't "limiting" all other classes....
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    Healer strike is ridiculously foolish and accomplishes nothing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dubont View Post
    this makes sense...but it makes too much sense for the OP to understand because it isn't "limiting" all other classes....
    damn your crazy lol its ok im done with you.
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