Should we be limited to only one craft class?

[DNO]

thanks for the convo. no sense talking to a wall that won't take anything in. In the end SE will decide. If you think you can currently master everything now you are wrong. Currently the theme is Jack of all trades, master of none. There is no need to use profanities. Have a nice day.

profanities? at you when?
You are wrong. When you lose a debate you leave? I clearly said before that you made a good point but you have no proof. you need to learn to debate and that everyone will not agree with you since you are making *** up. you are guessing about oversupply it has not happened yet in fact it took me 3 months to get my MRD axe +2 and it was about 3 mill.

Fact is i brought up great points. FF11 crafters largely LOST money. they only made money on HQ stuff. same as in this game.

[Dubont]

profanities? at you when?
You are wrong. When you lose a debate you leave? I clearly said before that you made a good point but you have no proof. you need to learn to debate and that everyone will not agree with you since you are making *** up. you are guessing about oversupply it has not happened yet in fact it took me 3 months to get my MRD axe +2 and it was about 3 mill.

Fact is i brought up great points. FF11 crafters largely LOST money. they only made money on HQ stuff. same as in this game.

actually..in this game..with all of my currently-being-leveled crafts...I can make millions in just a few days..and my highest craft is only 34 weaving...everything else is 21 or lower. Also, in FFXI, a fisher could make a solid 117k a day at level 18...double if he had a mule..

[DNO]

actually..in this game..with all of my currently-being-leveled crafts...I can make millions in just a few days..and my highest craft is only 34 weaving...everything else is 21 or lower. Also, in FFXI, a fisher could make a solid 117k a day at level 18...double if he had a mule..

so but you are kinda proving my point. If you sell shit in ff14 RIGHT NOW you can make millions and people are still buying it right? that means you have supply and people are buying it.
thanks for that.

Also i played ff11 6 years most crafters lost money. i no a lot of people ONLY made money with cursed gear and scorpions harness etc. Things that was hard to get.

[Dubont]

so but you are kinda proving my point. If you sell shit in ff14 RIGHT NOW you can make millions and people are still buying it right? that means you have supply and people are buying it.
thanks for that.

Also i played ff11 6 years most crafters lost money. i no a lot of people ONLY made money with cursed gear and scorpions harness etc. Things that was hard to get.

what point did I prove? You basically said that you can only make money has a high level crafter. At r16 Alc, I was pulling in 300-400k a day. At r18 GLD, I can bring in an easy 1mil a day. Wvr doesn't make as much now since Dark Matter was introduced, but just by repairing crap, I can still make a good 200-300k.

In FFXI...I did nothing but make money...and I sold Nebimonites, Shihei and Insect Balls...of course, I either gathered my materials, bought them from a cheap NPC or bought them cheap from LS mates...but if you buy over priced items to make an underpriced item without first doing the math to see if you will make a profit, that's your own fault, not the game's.

[DNO]

what point did I prove? You basically said that you can only make money has a high level crafter. At r16 Alc, I was pulling in 300-400k a day. At r18 GLD, I can bring in an easy 1mil a day. Wvr doesn't make as much now since Dark Matter was introduced, but just by repairing crap, I can still make a good 200-300k.

In FFXI...I did nothing but make money...and I sold Nebimonites, Shihei and Insect Balls...of course, I either gathered my materials, bought them from a cheap NPC or bought them cheap from LS mates...but if you buy over priced items to make an underpriced item without first doing the math to see if you will make a profit, that's your own fault, not the game's.

Where did i say that? if you would read you would see that ClashBlades says you only made money for HQ items. i was just saying thats how it was in FF11 also with only 1 class you can rank up. I know there were people who made money but the real big money was high level crafting i mean are you really gonna debate that? FF11 mostly everyone was broke and most got money from HNMS not crafting

[ClashBlades]

Where did i say that? if you would read you would see that ClashBlades says you only made money for HQ items. i was just saying thats how it was in FF11 also with only 1 class you can rank up. I know there were people who made money but the real big money was high level crafting i mean are you really gonna debate that? FF11 mostly everyone was broke and most got money from HNMS not crafting

I did say that hq'ing items is where the money is. I did not say that having a high level crafter was needed. I can hop on a r25 goldsmith and hq brass nuggets and make a couple mil on a stack.

[DNO]

I did say that hq'ing items is where the money is. I did not say that having a high level crafter was needed. I can hop on a r25 goldsmith and hq brass nuggets and make a couple mil on a stack.

o trust me i agree but if you can make money in a game where everyone can craft this over supply thing is a little far from the truth correct?

[Dubont]

Where did i say that? if you would read you would see that ClashBlades says you only made money for HQ items. i was just saying thats how it was in FF11 also with only 1 class you can rank up. I know there were people who made money but the real big money was high level crafting i mean are you really gonna debate that? FF11 mostly everyone was broke and most got money from HNMS not crafting

your statement contains false information as you don't know exactly what "most" people did. I was moderately broke because I would spend all of my money on random crap that I didn't need. I didn't make money from HNMs. I made my gil from fishing and crafting and I never once lost gil from doing either one. It was all profit. The "big" money was in HQ crafting, yes, at times, but you still didn't have to be level 100 in a craft to make comparable gil. For instance, back when I played, a Jupiter staff was 200k and the mats for it were around 100k to buy them all. If he didn't HQ any of them, he would be out around 50k a synth (Thunder staff was around 50k at this time). Now if he crafted 3, only 1 was HQ, that means he broke even. This isn't good money at all. Fishing? Pure profit. I spend 5k for a lure, walk home with 117k worth of fish...at level 18. At level 90, I use that same lure that I had been using for months and walk home with 217k worth of fish. For cooking, insect paste cost me..what...100gil to make? 1-2k a stack? Pure profit. Shihei? Farmed most of my materials so they only cost me around 500gil to make...and what..6k a stack? Profit. IMO, it was the high level crafters that were the dumb ones. They pumped out gear after gear and sure, you would occasionally pull in a HQ that would net you 6mil, but you also have to account for the gil that you lost while making nothing but NQs...and really, there isn't much profit there.

[DNO]

your statement contains false information as you don't know exactly what "most" people did. I was moderately broke because I would spend all of my money on random crap that I didn't need. I didn't make money from HNMs. I made my gil from fishing and crafting and I never once lost gil from doing either one. It was all profit. The "big" money was in HQ crafting, yes, at times, but you still didn't have to be level 100 in a craft to make comparable gil. For instance, back when I played, a Jupiter staff was 200k and the mats for it were around 100k to buy them all. If he didn't HQ any of them, he would be out around 50k a synth (Thunder staff was around 50k at this time). Now if he crafted 3, only 1 was HQ, that means he broke even. This isn't good money at all. Fishing? Pure profit. I spend 5k for a lure, walk home with 117k worth of fish...at level 18. At level 90, I use that same lure that I had been using for months and walk home with 217k worth of fish. For cooking, insect paste cost me..what...100gil to make? 1-2k a stack? Pure profit. Shihei? Farmed most of my materials so they only cost me around 500gil to make...and what..6k a stack? Profit. IMO, it was the high level crafters that were the dumb ones. They pumped out gear after gear and sure, you would occasionally pull in a HQ that would net you 6mil, but you also have to account for the gil that you lost while making nothing but NQs...and really, there isn't much profit there.

You are not most. Again as i said. most people did not craft in ff11 most gil was made from drops. big gil anyway little gil was made from farming stuff and what not