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    Sequora's Avatar
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    Raveen Raines
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 100

    Dev silence about SMN

    So this probably won't get any more attention then the other 6 posts. Is anyone else bothered by the fact that the devs continue to ignore commenting on the state of SMN after all the attention it's gotten since 2.4 came out? We haven't even had a dev come out and say that there's nothing wrong with the job. There are several posts on NA forums and a post on the JP forums that's over 40 pages long about the issue's we're having. The closest thing we had to an answer was that "we understand some people don't like the amount of skill/spellspeed on gear this content patch, but we need to make sure that we have all types of stat combinations to keep the game interesting" or something along those lines. 2.5 comes out in 11 days and it doesn't look like they have any changes planned for the job. I love SMN but it's pretty upsetting that we got a pretty substantial nerf back in 2.1 and since then all other DPS jobs have gotten huge buffs.
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    Zappa Dattic
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble
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    When in doubt, assume sarcasm

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    F'yahna Mhasi
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    Cactuar
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    Summoner Lv 70
    I figure they want us all to go Black Mage so they can quietly axe the class and make Arcanist a full time healer.
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    Tex Mex
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    Sargatanas
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Delta041 View Post
    I figure they want us all to go Black Mage so they can quietly axe the class and make Arcanist a full time healer.
    haha i loled.
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    Player Akiza's Avatar
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    Rhel Eryut
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Delta041 View Post
    I figure they want us all to go Black Mage so they can quietly axe the class and make Arcanist a full time healer.
    I agree I think SE is just going to remove Summoner in 3.0 and just have the Scholar.
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    Yshelle Dawnholder
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    Diabolos
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Delta041 View Post
    I figure they want us all to go Black Mage so they can quietly axe the class and make Arcanist a full time healer.
    lmao, this could be more true than we want to admit. Seriously though, silence is usually an indication of one of two things. Either SE does not feel there are any problems, or (more likely) they don't know what to do about it yet and don't want to suffer backlash from any statement they make. If they say there is no problem there will be an uproar (justifiably I admit). If they admit a problem, we will badger them for fix specifics and implementation dates. If SE stays true to form, we won't hear anything at all until they have crunched their numbers and have something definitive to state, whether bad or good.
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    I have no prayer for that...

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    Nebulon Gumball
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    Gilgamesh
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Yea it's at the point where it's better to say something rather then keeping tight lip about it. All they have to say is "we are working on summoner." If they don't do anything to summoner I'm going to be at a crossroad deciding if I should keep playing or playing a different dps job. And I don't want that to happen.
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    Gouka Kuroi
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    Odin
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    SE has a long and storied history of being terrified of pet jobs. They either make them extremely niche or err on the side of nerfdom when attempting to balance them. I forget where I saw it - and someone please correct me if I'm wrong - but I read that they never intended to put any pet jobs in FFXIV at all, except that when they polled between 1.x and 2.0, the playerbase overwhelmingly desired SMN as a new job. The job was produced, had a very strong initial showing, but now they're afraid of overpowering the pet/master balance and so they allow the other DPS jobs to shine a little bit brighter than SMN.
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    Dyvid Pandemonium
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    Adamantoise
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    Blacksmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Gouka View Post
    SE has a long and storied history of being terrified of pet jobs. They either make them extremely niche or err on the side of nerfdom when attempting to balance them. I forget where I saw it - and someone please correct me if I'm wrong - but I read that they never intended to put any pet jobs in FFXIV at all, except that when they polled between 1.x and 2.0, the playerbase overwhelmingly desired SMN as a new job. The job was produced, had a very strong initial showing, but now they're afraid of overpowering the pet/master balance and so they allow the other DPS jobs to shine a little bit brighter than SMN.
    Well this hasn't been an issue until FCoB. In fact before that it was just a couple of people complaining that Summoner didn't feel summon~y enough. Also you my be correct that Tanaka's FFXIV didn't want a pet job but once Yoshi-P took over it was all bets are off.
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    Last edited by Dyvid; 01-11-2015 at 12:59 AM.

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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Exodus
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Dyvid View Post
    Well this hasn't been an issue until FCoB. In fact before that it was just a couple of people complaining that Summoner didn't feel summon~y enough. Also you my be correct that Tanaka's FFXIV didn't want a pet job but once Yoshi-P took over it was all bets are off.
    Which is probably why SMN will be getting a few adjustments anywhere from 2.5 to 3.0. They've already adjusted almost all the classes based on Coil, so it's SMN's turn.
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