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    Sessurea's Avatar
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    Lanfear Sessurea
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    I think it's fine on my sch. But tanks eating aoes/not bothering to pop cooldowns like tards/losing agro to dps.....well it can turn pretty ugly tbh. I personally hate non speed runs but I respect a tank who pulls within his ability too. Especially inexperienced paladins have difficulty with aoe threat vs say, a triple flaring blm, quelling or no.
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    Anrui Mydia
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    Warrior Lv 100
    As someone who Mains {White Mage} it does get very tiresome having to speedrun every Dungeon I queue for. It's not that I can't handle it or anything but I sometimes just want to take Dungeons at a Steady pace as a means of relaxing.
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    ChameleonMS's Avatar
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    Jordan O'niell
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    Gilgamesh
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by seraf View Post
    As someone who Mains {White Mage} it does get very tiresome having to speedrun every Dungeon I queue for. It's not that I can't handle it or anything but I sometimes just want to take Dungeons at a Steady pace as a means of relaxing.
    Healers control the pace just as much as tanks do, tell the tank to make smaller pulls. And if the tank does not listen, let the tank die a couple times.
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    FranSeara's Avatar
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    Fran Seara
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by seraf View Post
    As someone who Mains {White Mage} it does get very tiresome having to speedrun every Dungeon I queue for. It's not that I can't handle it or anything but I sometimes just want to take Dungeons at a Steady pace as a means of relaxing.
    Siding with seaf here. Q'ing as Heals in Ex Dfs with speed runners sucks, If you have just came home from Work/school and wanna just run a nice relaxing DF.
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    Synestr's Avatar
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    Synestr Ashbringer
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    Behemoth
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by FranSeara View Post
    Siding with seaf here. Q'ing as Heals in Ex Dfs with speed runners sucks, If you have just came home from Work/school and wanna just run a nice relaxing DF.
    I see what you are saying, but if you want a relaxing run, do High level or Low lvl. EX currently is for quick tomes due to everyone wanting to get done asap for them to NOT see their item drop, lol. I don't like it either, but I do it. On tank, on heals on DPS. I get my daily bonus quicker so I can move on to other stuff.

    What was said earlier though about heals controlling the pace as well is spot on. I do my best to keep up, but if I can't, first to notice is the tank and adjustments are made.
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    ColdestHeaven's Avatar
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    Seyrleen Cinderbraid
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    Ragnarok
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Synestr View Post
    I see what you are saying, but if you want a relaxing run, do High level or Low lvl.
    High Level relaxing? The same one with Pharos, ten thousand zombies, two with vulnerability up, two with Banish III? I just mentioned two really dangerous enemies because that's what tanks do now - two pulls. One per boss. Haukke? Same deal: three pulls. Brayflox? The name is enough. Amdapor? Can be, but I usually find PLD with 4k HP so it's not happening a lot -not that some don't actually try...- and I could go on with the list. Low level is the only relaxing one - that is, unless you find a derp tank in Aurum who feels like speedrunning and proceeds to pull everything in the first room, or a tank in Dzemael who needs zodiac drops. High level, though? I'm still speedrunning. I don't even dislike speedruns, because I find dungeons too slow-paced, but it's not that hard to find lately those who expects you to make them immortal while staying in 3-4 AOEs with no cooldowns and just slightly decent gear. It's just...stupid. It's a waste of time if you don't know how to use the class.
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    Last edited by ColdestHeaven; 01-13-2015 at 09:53 PM.

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    EinherjarLucian's Avatar
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    Chalyss Hearthglenne
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    Hyperion
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Sessurea View Post
    tanks eating aoes
    This, by far, is the biggest cause of speed-run wipes. It doesn't matter how good the healer is, if the tank is eating easily-avoidable aoes, he's going to die. Avoidable damage is avoidable, and rocking 12k health as a warrior won't help you if you take five 3k hits at the same time, cooldowns or not.
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