What tank do you like to heal most?

[Kelya]

WAR's tank stance also increases it's healing received, so if you DO look at it this way you'd still be using a lesser Cure to heal the damage over a larger one on PLD. Basically, pay attention to the % the tank's heal is at, not how much damage they take flat.

Yeah this is important to think about !

However, the difference of healing can be seen on the speed that the damages are taken. You can see it on the first heal you will need to land for example. When you will not need to Cure 1 a PLD because he didn't get to 75-80% HP yet, you will need to Cure 1 the WAR because he got to 60%-70% HP already. Even if you heal him more than the PLD with the same Cure 1, you will need to heal him earlier, meaning in the long run than you will need to give him more cure. That's how I see it, and that's the only difference I see between the 2 tanks : one needs to be healed earlier than the other (unless the WAR is always doing self-healing combo).

[RazeLandale]

Some WAR like to use Macros to tell you to Esuna Pacification. =/ It's like... 5 seconds or whatever. I have more important things to heal. I don't mind using Esuna on it when I have time but if you have a macro going off every time it gets kind of annoying.

Was it always so short? It feels like it used to be a bigger deal. Then one day I saw the short duration and was all 'huh. Well, I'll get it if I can, but it doesn't matter that much.'

[StrangeBard]

I haven't done much as a Scholar yet due the fact that as I post this it is only at level 44.
As a White Mage I find that both have their perks. Warriors are a lot easier to heal due to the additional healing buff granted by Defiance. In times of need there is the 30% from Divine Seal, the 20% from Convalescence, the 20% from Defiance, and finally if 5-20% from Mantra. So if things get bad my heals turn massive. On the other hand Paladins have a LOT of damage mitigation. They can reduce incoming damage by 60-80% on their own depending on which oath they have up. On top of that they have Hallowed Ground they can stop damage long enough for Benediction.
In general both tanks are great to heal as long as both you and the tank are experienced. So as someone said earlier it all comes down to personality. Tanks who are observant and friendly are great. Tanks who don't pay attention and get people killed... not so much.

[Blueskyy]

This actually gets really annoying when the DPS and Healers sit there and yell at me for tanking the boss just because my HP pool is only about 1k less than the warrior. I have even had them say this is the reason too.

The math is only at base, when you add the CDs it's a different story. Any lets stop arguing about this.

From a War point of view that's always seen as an Offtank it feels kinda annoying that PLD always wants to MT even tho I've cleared more contents than him. (It's just an opinion btw) and as a War when I look at this thread of people saying they like healing PLD more. It just demotivates me more as WAR really have to work hard to go toe on toe with a PLD while all of PLD cd is just a click away.

[Blueskyy]

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No Mitigations are multiplicative PLDs mitigation cannot reach 80%. If you have shield oath, and you use rampart. Rampart will be 20% of the 20% from shield oath meaning Rampart will be 16% adding up to 36%.

[StrangeBard]

Well that sucks I always assumed it was additive. Still the mitigation is quite nice as it makes things easier.

[Kelya]

as a War when I look at this thread of people saying they like healing PLD more. It just demotivates me more as WAR really have to work hard to go toe on toe with a PLD while all of PLD cd is just a click away.

Don't ! I'm loving healing WAR as long as they are good WAR. We can say the feeling "it's more difficult to keep a war alive vs a pld" is a bonus, a challenge. Once you know the fight, being a healer becomes less and less fun/active. So I always need to find difficulties in game, otherwise why do I play ? Ppl often forget that the fun you get in game is part of the difficulty it brings. If you have 0 difficulties, what's the point ? Somewhere, if your healers always grumble because they have to heal you (a WAR), then they are not thinking as a real healer, who wants to improve, to shine, to success through any difficulties.

And btw, once you get used to heal a WAR, once you have the tips, you just begin to like it so much !

[Ceodore]

I'm not saying this was the same attack (as the PLD would take less than 2k damage in that case)

Well this is a given. If the PLD was hit for a 2000 damage attack AFTER mitigation, it was a larger attack than what the Warrior was hit with. So... the comparison isn't even possible. You're essentially saying that the Warrior is easier to heal up because he took a smaller attack while the Paladin is harder to heal up because he took a larger attack. It's really misleading.

Any lets stop arguing about this.

Not really arguing it, just putting things mathematical for the ease of understanding. Though I suppose it could be hard to understand then if others aren't good at math.

From a War point of view that's always seen as an Offtank it feels kinda annoying that PLD always wants to MT even tho I've cleared more contents than him. (It's just an opinion btw) and as a War when I look at this thread of people saying they like healing PLD more. It just demotivates me more as WAR really have to work hard to go toe on toe with a PLD while all of PLD cd is just a click away.

And by no means ever should a Paladin who doesn't know what they are doing ever, EVER take on the role of OT or MT is they can't perform up to par. Further, a great Warrior is ALWAYS welcome. While there MAY be some draw backs in survivability which frankly, we just can't determine either way thanks to RNG, Warriors bring sooooo much more to the table for dps and debuffs than a Paladin. It's why, really, the ideal set up is not two Paladins or two Warriors, it's one of each. If there's anything I like to see, it's a Warrior next to me... I'm a poet, and didn't know it! Seriously, dude, keep up the great work!

This actually gets really annoying when the DPS and Healers sit there and yell at me for tanking the boss just because my HP pool is only about 1k less than the warrior. I have even had them say this is the reason too.

I suppose I should reword this. It really gets annoying when the DPS and Healers sit there and yell at me for tanking the boss just because my HP pool is only about 1k less than the Warrior, and they all just ASSUMED I would off tank without informing me ahead of time that they would prefer me to off tank instead.

Communication people, if the Warrior wants to tank, then say so, never assume the other tank just magically knows how to read the party's mind. I'm more than happy giving OT or MT to the Warrior, or, if I am on my Warrior, to the Paladin, just as long as they say that they want to do that role. I don't go into new content blind either, so no matter what, I will already know what to do ahead of time in any party role. It's just a sign of a good player anyways.

[DeadRiser]

I see no difference.

But I HATE when a tank does huge pulls without telling me or asking me because I usually try to help dps smaller pulls.

If there are tanks in here, please ask your healer if it's ok with them first. Do NOT just start doing large pulls. There are a lot of healers that can't handle that >.> (I can, I still like to be asked though. It's common courtesy lol)

[mdha02]

Not saying esuna/leeching pacification should be mandatory on WARs, I do it if I see it and have the time, but 5 seconds seems like forever when you are the WAR. However, anybody who gets pissed that you are not focusing on that, especially with large pulls should die a couple times do to healers focusing on removing the debuff rather than healing. Maybe they will learn to live with pacification and HP, rather than no pacification and no HP. No pun intended.