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    Quote Originally Posted by Windklinge View Post
    the op has a point. tough its definitly to early to say anything but as a long term mmo veteran i can say this one sadly savely. the NEW class will always be better than the OLD class because why? SALES. if the new classes are OP more people will buy the xpac to play em. if that same thing happens with drk then you wont see any paladin or warrior anymore 4 weeks into the xpac. of course they will address that issue with time. but until that point everyone will go dark knight. i really hope warrior remains a solid and equal choice to DRK because thier role (offtank mainly) is basicly the same but drk is just way cooler because of sword > axe. so lets hope they dont screw us veteran tank players all over. i dont wanna restart completly with gear or another class just because the devs fail at balance.
    Thank you windklinge, at least you agree with me unlike everyone else that just up right attacked me, but then again "Internet"

    Vets of MMO's have ALL seen this done many times over when a new class comes out, shoot even IN this game, ninjas when they came out were doing too well what the dev's wanted leaving dragoons to be left in the dust. In the end minor nerfs had to be done to ninjas to lower them down and minor buffs to dragoons to make them really good. Now you got another tanking class coming in that pretty much does the same thing what warriors do and just like many MMO's it will come out OP outdoing the warrior in performance.

    Now, the reason why I brought this up was cause the head guy himself when asked what will dks do compare to warriors and he said it himself that Dk's will use life stealing to regain its health back from the damage he takes(I think we all knew that one) but HOW much is the question? If the dk get the same amount of HP as the warrior and does the same amount of damage as the warrior with higher lifesteal which makes the warrior look like a pile of poo, what will you want a warrior for? IF the dk does MORE damage then the warrior added with those others, then what will you want a warrior for? These questions WILL always come up cause this brings concern to the people who play them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie_Pie View Post

    ...Now you got another tanking class coming in that pretty much does the same thing what warriors do and just like many MMO's it will come out OP outdoing the warrior in performance.

    the reason why I brought this up was cause the head guy said it himself that Dk's will use life stealing to regain its health back from the damage he takes If the dk get the same amount of HP as the warrior and does the same amount of damage as the warrior with higher lifesteal which makes the warrior look like a pile of poo, what will you want a warrior for?
    Death Knights didn't kill Bear tanks in world of Warcraft, and Dark Knights won't kill warriors in FFXIV. Just because DKs will have superficial similarities to how warriors play, doesn't mean it'll feel the same. There will always be players who prefer warriors. All this extra class will ultimately do, is add variety for people who are already tanking or might like to try it but aren't sold on Paladins or Warriors. As for being denied raid spots because of your choice of tank class, that actually doesn't happen very often in my experience. Mostly people complain on forums that it could happen, because we all know that min/max harcore raiders set the standards for how gaming populaces behave. (Wait, no they don't.)

    Someone somewhere will always find an excuse to look down on others over petty minutia. Screw 'em, Pinkie. Play what you like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galgarion View Post
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    Remember how coil started and warriors couldn't tank cause they would get blown up super fast compare to paladins. Many warriors were overlooked for coil till they redid them aka (buffed them) so they could.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie_Pie View Post
    Remember how coil started and warriors couldn't tank cause they would get blown up super fast compare to paladins. Many warriors were overlooked for coil till they redid them aka (buffed them) so they could.
    huh ? my group was at T5 twisters before the warrior change and I was MT on T1 and T5. People not able to master a difficult class and choosing to go to the least resistance path didn't make warriors unable to tank.

    Even though I'd be an idiot if I didn't acknowledge the heavy lack of balance between the two jobs, warriors were able to tank anything past then. There... would have been a lot of troubles tanking anything that came after though.
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