We have finally come full circle, SMN's need help!

[Sleigh]

Dummy Comparison iLVL 131

Estimated SMN Single Target Damage @ i131 - 560 DPS (410 SMN + 150 PET) - Garuda

Melee 640 +/- 15 DPS
BRD 560
BLM 620

I have a "friend" who parses and has i135 BLM and SMN weapons and no, SMN can't get to 560 (assuming a run without every Fester critting and going until 4 minutes) on a dummy without a whole lot of Foe's. BLM also can't even get close to 620 unless you have Foe's + Selene or an amazingly lucky run.

[Judge_Xero]

I have a "friend" who parses and has i135 BLM and SMN weapons and no, SMN can't get to 560 (assuming a run without every Fester critting and going until 4 minutes) on a dummy without a whole lot of Foe's. BLM also can't even get close to 620 unless you have Foe's + Selene or an amazingly lucky run.

If you don't mind me asking, how much DPS can your "Friend" do with BLM and SMN. Since I'm not i131 yet I was only able to simulate the damage based on what kind of damage I do currently on a Dummy (estimated).

The main point was to represent the growing gap between BLM and SMN (and Melee to a degree) in Single Target Damage. If you could give real world Dummy numbers that would make the comparison even better.

[Sleigh]

If you don't mind me asking, how much DPS can your "Friend" do with BLM and SMN. Since I'm not i131 yet I was only able to simulate the damage based on what kind of damage I do currently on a Dummy (estimated).

The main point was to represent the growing gap between BLM and SMN (and Melee to a degree) in Single Target Damage. If you could give real world Dummy numbers that would make the comparison even better.

My friend on average does about 500-510 around 4 minutes with SMN + Garuda (and is completely dry), and anywhere from 530-570 in the same time frame with BLM. This isn't max iLVL but it's relatively close.

The biggest hit against SMN vs BLM in a dummy (and to a tiny bit lesser extent real fight) scenario is how good Selene is for BLM. Selene is huge ... easily lets my friend do 20-30 more DPS over 4 minutes. SMN gets virtually nothing because those extra Ruins are bad for MP, which carries over to real fights in a negative way (well, not negative, but not good either). Foe's probably benefits SMN more on the opener than BLM, but it's much easier to utilize a second Foe's with BLM over SMN.