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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yshnal View Post
    It's not a false assumption if you look at the most recent patch, where half of it was cash shop related, with a 66% of the major feature being in the cash shop for real money.
    patch 2.45 listings by Non-Mogstation vs. Mogstation
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    6 Zodaic Weapon Quests
    3 Delivery Moogle Quests
    New hat in unhidden maps (not for sale on mogstation)

    Eternal Bonding:
    Garments of Innocence
    Eternity Ring
    Embrace Emote
    Eternity Cake
    2 Hairstyles
    4 Fireworks
    3 Ceremony style options
    1 Predetermined Cutscene for Procession
    1 Predetermined Cutscene for Recession
    3 variational cutscenes for the Ceremony
    Wedding Music
    Standard Ornaments
    Standard Carpet
    Standard Flowers
    1 Quest to prepare for Wedding

    7 mechanical changes to Lancer skills
    1 mechanical change to Dragoon
    4 Mechanical changes to Rogue
    1 ability added to Conjurer
    Removal of weekly lockout on Final Coil of Bahamut with loot changes for additional attempts.
    Loot change (improvement) to Ramuh Extreme
    Loot change (improvement) to Shiva Extreme
    item level sync adjusted to several dungeons until 2.5
    11 new crafting Recipes
    Adjustments (improvements) to exchanges from Talan
    Adjustments (improvements) for Spring water
    Adjustments to Mistbeard Mask
    2 new Gathering points added
    2 Achievements added
    59 items added
    6 bug fixes

    142 changes / additions




    Mogstation Purchasable:

    Eternal Bond:
    1 extra variation Cutscene for Procession
    1 extra variation Cutscene for Recession
    1 Gift for Wedding guests
    1 extra option for Fireworks
    2 variant ornaments
    4 variant colors of flower
    4 variant colors of carpet
    Two seater Chocobo
    Garments of Passion
    Garments of Devotion

    1 minion added
    3 Dyes added

    39 changes / additions


    181 changes / additions in patch 2.45. A QoL patch. Of that, 21.54% was Mogstation-able due to wedding service only. Feel free to fact check.
    na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/e131753e64b2980c646e605b11cf56b933b99601
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  2. #12
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    Hey OP, I thought you were done here. Just saying...

    But on topic, I was gonna probably waste away in Gold Saucer, cash shop or no, so thanks SE for saving me a bit of spare cash I guess lol.
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  3. #13
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    Everyone was freaking the hell out about Gold Saucer and Triple Triad being cash shop-fueled things and not once did they think Yoshi-P was being honest when he said "Vanity only Cash Shop".

    Welcome to the official forums, where the doom is made up and the facts don't matter.

    Seriously, the fact that you feel that it's sad you have to thank someone for being honest is more a testament to how many corporations don't care about their customer base so long as they make a quick buck. The only consumer sin Square-Enix has ever really been guilty of is overpricing mobile games and game memorabilia, and that's only because they tried pricing them compared to their past iterations on game consoles/handhelds rather than other mobile games. If this game were published by EA, this would be a legitimate case of "Thank you for not squeezing the money dry from us". But as this isn't EA, let's try to look on the bright side of things.
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  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcari View Post
    Hey OP, I thought you were done here. Just saying...

    But on topic, I was gonna probably waste away in Gold Saucer, cash shop or no, so thanks SE for saving me a bit of spare cash I guess lol.
    I guess it just shows that I'm not an immature brat like some other people. That when I complain is with a reason and that I'm able to see the good of the game too (even if in this case it's a 50% thing) and state it publicly, instead of hidding myself when something goes differently from what I thought.

    I guess some of you aren't happy if you don't try to troll or belittle your fellow players, or maybe you just simply can't see beyond your own nose.

    I guess I can't say it when I see something good.


    Quote Originally Posted by Nel_Celestine View Post
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    You're counting there minimal items that are part of the zodiac quest, bug fixes and balance changes (since when that can... sorry... should be sold on any cash shop...?), and even then it's resulting in a whooping 21.54%. I guess I'm not that far off, after all, if we count the CORE parts of that patch. Because good luck selling bug fixes, balance changes, and items with no use by themselves in any cash shop without getting all the playerbase to riot.
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  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by HakuroDK View Post
    Everyone was freaking the hell out about Gold Saucer and Triple Triad being cash shop-fueled things and not once did they think Yoshi-P was being honest when he said "Vanity only Cash Shop".
    That's not what he said, he said "no pay to win".

    So basically everything except raids and gear is potentially fair game.

    Frankly I won't 100% believe TT has no real money element until it is implemented and out. But I really look forward to that not being the case.
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  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yshnal View Post
    I guess I can't say it when I see something good.
    The problem is that you're seeing crises averted rather than things being business as usual, and you're doomsaying like it's Y2K or The Rapture all over again.

    I mean, I could say the world's going to end tomorrow, scream it in everyone's faces, then tomorrow say "Thank god the world didn't end" to those same people, then when they insult you, say "I guess I can't say it when I see something good."

    Maybe you should try giving Square-Enix the benefit of the doubt here? Like... other than one measly unintentional oversight that turned into a gil-buyer's dream, nothing has really been nearly as bad as you and others in your anti-Cash Shop camp make it out to be.
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  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by seida View Post
    That's not what he said, he said "no pay to win".
    Granted that is the literal quote, but with the group of people saying that vanity items are pay to win for roleplayers (which is utterly bizarre, as a roleplayer myself), it's really annoying to say "no pay to win" when even THAT encounters opposition.
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  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yshnal View Post
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    do you want me to go back and point out how much was added in the last QoL patch? a hell of a lot less.
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    Hooray, new game update! Let's argue about it... wait what?
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    As much as I love the staff...we don't know yet until it's available.
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