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    Estellise Valesti
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    Astrologian Speculations! How will it fit in?

    Right now WHM and SCH are so balanced, and compliment each other so well, that I find it hard to imagine how they are going to add in a new healer and still keep it so well balanced. Right now you want (in end game content), ideally, one WHM and one SCH in your party. How would Astrologian (AST?) be able to be seen as an equal contender for one of those spots?

    Also what kind of healer would it be? Would it be a healer that has access to more buffs but less DPS? Would it have spells that would buff an ally, and then would cause them to heal upon taking damage?

    There are so many questions and we know so little that it is very hard to speculate, but that doesn't stop people from doing just that! So what are your thoughts on AST (that's the abbreviation I'm using), and how do you think it will fit into the already quite balanced healer dynamic?

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    It's hard to say it now with only the little info we have, but my guess is that AST will be ideally paired with a white mage. I think of AST kind like a """"SCH 2.0""""", in way that WHM will still handle the BIG heals while AST will have some healing capacity but trully shine in overall party support/utility.

    But of course, this is just an "educated guess" based on what we know of AST so far. I could be terribly wrong
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    With the cards it sounds more like a support/debuff class than a healer. We should probably expect a lot of time related spell like haste and slow.
    Ahhh I'm so gonna roll one.
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    I wonder if the AST is going to focus on Heal Over Time effects.

    The WHM sorta does that, but I'm genuinely curious to see if the AST takes it further.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylve View Post
    I wonder if the AST is going to focus on Heal Over Time effects.

    The WHM sorta does that, but I'm genuinely curious to see if the AST takes it further.
    It will defintely have different healing mechanics compared to the Scholar and the White Mage as it is a different class and most feal different.

    I don't know how viable HoT could be during bossfights, but it is a possibility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balipu View Post
    It will defintely have different healing mechanics compared to the Scholar and the White Mage as it is a different class and most feal different.

    I don't know how viable HoT could be during bossfights, but it is a possibility.
    To be fair, In all my years on (That Which Shall Not be Named), I played a Resto Druid, which is all about the HoT effects, and it functions extremely well.
    A lot of party damage happens in bursts, which HoT effects would be amazing for healing.
    And it synergise amazingly with SCH Shields, Succor the party while the AST ticks healing on all the things.

    Might just be a pipe dream for me, But i would absolutely love having a HoT based Healer in XIV.
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    I also think the WHM/SCH balance is currently pretty perfect so I do not see how it will fit as well
    just wait and see I guess
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    More interested in the card gimmick myself. I want to see shuffle and draw mechanic. Something like having 6 carded skills and pressing medium cooldown shuffle skill gives you access to 3 random skills from the deck. You can use only those 3 until you can shuffle for another 3 random draws. Then you have another shorter skill that throws one card back into the globe and draw another card. For some degree of stability you can use another skill that locks down a card to prevent it from taken away on the next shuffle or redraw.

    Otherwise i dont really care what it does as a healer cause i aint healing!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gardes View Post
    More interested in the card gimmick myself. I want to see shuffle and draw mechanic. Something like having 6 carded skills and pressing medium cooldown shuffle skill gives you access to 3 random skills from the deck. You can use only those 3 until you can shuffle for another 3 random draws. Then you have another shorter skill that throws one card back into the globe and draw another card. For some degree of stability you can use another skill that locks down a card to prevent it from taken away on the next shuffle or redraw.

    Otherwise i dont really care what it does as a healer cause i aint healing!

    Yeah the card gimmick is what sells it for me too. Ace in Type-0 also had a shuffle and draw mechanic and we know for a fact that we have 6 different kinds of cards. I wonder if we can combine them like the Mundras.
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    Ghishlain Pyrial
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    Given the fact the Astrologist in FFT had an arena wide Stop ability and Corsairs were the card dealing class in XI that handled AoE buffs, I can see Astrologians to be a more party wide support buff with heals attached. Time will tell how this will mesh different from BRD, assuming they go this route.

    I'm looking forward to seeing more information about Astrologians as S-E releases it.

    I am personally hoping it is a HoT healer as I played a Resto Druid back in WoW so that would make me gleeful of revisiting that era~
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    Last edited by Ghishlain; 12-22-2014 at 10:40 AM.

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