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    Player Ilitsa's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sartori View Post
    There are people buying the dyes and other items off of the cash shop, then selling them in game for gil. What would you call that, sounds like pay to win to me.
    Sounds like intelligence to me. Unless you consider those crafted HQ 110's I paid for as "p2w" as well, I mean, I didn't make them myself, so surely, the fact that I had someone craft them FOR me because they had the means to, and I had the gil they wanted in exchange is something that not -everyone- can manage to do, right?

    reselling your items that you paid for is not pay-to-win. Pay-to-win is offering an ingame benefit above other players for a real-money expense. Dye does not put you above other players, no matter HOW you try to spin it. If they sold gear that was better/higher ilvl than the FCoB gear, THAT would be pay to win. EXP potions. Pay to win. Mounts that move faster than any of the in-game available counter parts? Pay to win. Do you see ANY of that in the cash shop? Not unless you're looking through salt-crusted glasses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilitsa View Post
    Sounds like intelligence to me. Unless you consider those crafted HQ 110's I paid for as "p2w" as well, I mean, I didn't make them myself, so surely, the fact that I had someone craft them FOR me because they had the means to, and I had the gil they wanted in exchange is something that not -everyone- can manage to do, right?

    reselling your items that you paid for is not pay-to-win. Pay-to-win is offering an ingame benefit above other players for a real-money expense. Dye does not put you above other players, no matter HOW you try to spin it. If they sold gear that was better/higher ilvl than the FCoB gear, THAT would be pay to win. EXP potions. Pay to win. Mounts that move faster than any of the in-game available counter parts? Pay to win. Do you see ANY of that in the cash shop? Not unless you're looking through salt-crusted glasses.
    If you read the OP again you may catch the sarcasm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilitsa View Post
    Sounds like intelligence to me. Unless you consider those crafted HQ 110's I paid for as "p2w" as well, I mean, I didn't make them myself, so surely, the fact that I had someone craft them FOR me because they had the means to, and I had the gil they wanted in exchange is something that not -everyone- can manage to do, right?

    reselling your items that you paid for is not pay-to-win. Pay-to-win is offering an ingame benefit above other players for a real-money expense. Dye does not put you above other players, no matter HOW you try to spin it. If they sold gear that was better/higher ilvl than the FCoB gear, THAT would be pay to win. EXP potions. Pay to win. Mounts that move faster than any of the in-game available counter parts? Pay to win. Do you see ANY of that in the cash shop? Not unless you're looking through salt-crusted glasses.
    You don't consider trading real money for in-game money pay2win?
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    Player Ilitsa's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by File2ish View Post
    If you read the OP again you may catch the sarcasm.
    And I wasn't replying to the OP, now was I?
    Quote Originally Posted by Naanta View Post
    You don't consider trading real money for in-game money pay2win?
    No, I do not consider trading items for gil as pay to win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naanta View Post
    You don't consider trading real money for in-game money pay2win?
    Nope, absolutely not. in game money is worthless as far as winning in this game goes, and this is a FACT that has been proven over in at least 7 other cash shop threads.

    Get with the times.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hyunckel View Post
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    Sir. that image counts as a trigger for me. Ditzy doo, a loving single mother with a daughter named Dinky, does not say DURRRR... she just has a sight impediment.



    of course im kidding.
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