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    Cassiel Erzengel
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    This game is P2W

    Ok I don't like to complain first time in my whole life I SWEAR!!!!. This game has gone to far now with the P2W Yoshi said nothing would be behind a pay wall that was P2W and now we have 3 New Jobs who are all behind some Pay Wall. Worst thing is I cant even unlock them with my in game Moneyzzzzz.

    Also There is going to be a New zones that I cant play In unless I give into SE's greedy hand and give them the Money I will have to beg my Mom for because I wont be able to play it if I don't... Yoshi you have gone to far, but don't worry I wont quit the game I will keep on playing but I will still complain.

    Everyone Sign this Petition Getover.it
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    Quote Originally Posted by AliceVirgin View Post
    Ok I don't like to complain first time in my whole life I SWEAR!!!!. This game has gone to far now with the P2W Yoshi said nothing would be behind a pay wall that was P2W and now we have 3 New Jobs who are all behind some Pay Wall. Worst thing is I cant even unlock them with my in game Moneyzzzzz.

    Also There is going to be a New zones that I cant play In unless I give into SE's greedy hand and give them the Money I will have to beg my Mom for because I wont be able to play it if I don't... Yoshi you have gone to far, but don't worry I wont quit the game I will keep on playing but I will still complain.

    Everyone Sign this Petition Getover.it
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    It's common practice for expansion packs to cost money.
    It's been looks this since the beginning of MMOs. Even Ultima Online's expansions weren't free, and that game was around before some people on this forum were even born.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CGMidlander View Post
    It's common practice for expansion packs to cost money.
    It's been looks this since the beginning of MMOs. Even Ultima Online's expansions weren't free.
    Umm they're being sarcastic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AliceVirgin View Post
    Ok I don't like to complain first time in my whole life I SWEAR!!!!. This game has gone to far now with the P2W Yoshi said nothing would be behind a pay wall that was P2W and now we have 3 New Jobs who are all behind some Pay Wall. Worst thing is I cant even unlock them with my in game Moneyzzzzz.

    Also There is going to be a New zones that I cant play In unless I give into SE's greedy hand and give them the Money I will have to beg my Mom for because I wont be able to play it if I don't... Yoshi you have gone to far, but don't worry I wont quit the game I will keep on playing but I will still complain.

    Everyone Sign this Petition Getover.it
    oh...you....
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    Last edited by Shneibel; 12-20-2014 at 09:52 PM.

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    It's not a p2w ( you win what if you pay ?) maybe a pay to play
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rin23 View Post
    It's not a p2w ( you win what if you pay ?) maybe a pay to play
    There are people buying the dyes and other items off of the cash shop, then selling them in game for gil. What would you call that, sounds like pay to win to me.
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    Last edited by Sartori; 12-21-2014 at 12:31 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sartori View Post
    There are people buying the dyes and other items off of the cash shop, then selling them in game for gil. What would you call that, sounds like pay to win to me.
    Sounds like intelligence to me. Unless you consider those crafted HQ 110's I paid for as "p2w" as well, I mean, I didn't make them myself, so surely, the fact that I had someone craft them FOR me because they had the means to, and I had the gil they wanted in exchange is something that not -everyone- can manage to do, right?

    reselling your items that you paid for is not pay-to-win. Pay-to-win is offering an ingame benefit above other players for a real-money expense. Dye does not put you above other players, no matter HOW you try to spin it. If they sold gear that was better/higher ilvl than the FCoB gear, THAT would be pay to win. EXP potions. Pay to win. Mounts that move faster than any of the in-game available counter parts? Pay to win. Do you see ANY of that in the cash shop? Not unless you're looking through salt-crusted glasses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilitsa View Post
    Sounds like intelligence to me. Unless you consider those crafted HQ 110's I paid for as "p2w" as well, I mean, I didn't make them myself, so surely, the fact that I had someone craft them FOR me because they had the means to, and I had the gil they wanted in exchange is something that not -everyone- can manage to do, right?

    reselling your items that you paid for is not pay-to-win. Pay-to-win is offering an ingame benefit above other players for a real-money expense. Dye does not put you above other players, no matter HOW you try to spin it. If they sold gear that was better/higher ilvl than the FCoB gear, THAT would be pay to win. EXP potions. Pay to win. Mounts that move faster than any of the in-game available counter parts? Pay to win. Do you see ANY of that in the cash shop? Not unless you're looking through salt-crusted glasses.
    If you read the OP again you may catch the sarcasm.
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    Drexl Blythe
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilitsa View Post
    Sounds like intelligence to me. Unless you consider those crafted HQ 110's I paid for as "p2w" as well, I mean, I didn't make them myself, so surely, the fact that I had someone craft them FOR me because they had the means to, and I had the gil they wanted in exchange is something that not -everyone- can manage to do, right?

    reselling your items that you paid for is not pay-to-win. Pay-to-win is offering an ingame benefit above other players for a real-money expense. Dye does not put you above other players, no matter HOW you try to spin it. If they sold gear that was better/higher ilvl than the FCoB gear, THAT would be pay to win. EXP potions. Pay to win. Mounts that move faster than any of the in-game available counter parts? Pay to win. Do you see ANY of that in the cash shop? Not unless you're looking through salt-crusted glasses.
    You don't consider trading real money for in-game money pay2win?
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