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    Renault Cathetel
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuloon View Post
    Lost credibility? We're literally saying the same thing. If you read even a little of what I wrote, you'd know I think it would be "a QoL improvement to stabilize lag so it's easier to get Mudras off." The argument is whether the GCD should be removed and a client-side solution is the best fix for that, which I don't believe it is. My argument is that having a GCD on the Mudras is important to show skill in your class--in no way am I suggesting I support laggy servers and skills that go off. READ THIS
    You're saying mostly the same thing. You add in the small caveat of "they shouldn't change the system to make thing better for people because that would make it easy for noobs" whereas the other poster doesn't. The problem is, SE themselves has said this may not be something they can fix due to varying internet shenanigans with servers and such.

    The point of the original post is, if they can't fix it to work correctly for everyone (not just Japan), then the whole thing should be revisited to try and find a solution. Yes, even if it means "knowing the delay on them and working with it" is not longer a "part of the skillset" and potentially less skilled players can perform nearly as well as the more skilled ones when it comes to Mudras. Oh no.

    Ever since switching to NIN as my main I've had to use Pingzapper to ensure my Mudra usage comes out mostly correct. Having to pay for additional software because SE made a solution that only works for a small portion of its customers is not good.
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    Last edited by AlphaDragoon; 12-20-2014 at 04:57 AM.

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    Chu Nami
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaDragoon View Post
    You're saying mostly the same thing.
    Yes, I realize that. What I'm trying to say is that, and I'll emphasize it so everyone sees it, while I don't support a laggy system as part of the NIN skill set, I don't think removing GCD completely is the fix NIN should get for the issue of laggy Mudras. Does that make sense? I believe a fix should be made as "a QoL improvement to stabilize lag so it's easier to get Mudras off," but making the mudra system so easy it's dummy proof isn't the answer. That's the only thing I've been trying to say. I'm just trying to find a better solution than the one the OP suggested.

    Am I seriously the only player on these forums that thinks skillful play should be rewarded more than just rolling your face over your keyboard? NIN was designed to have a high skill ceiling to pull high damage numbers. I don't think it's unreasonable for some difficulties included in the class to let you reach those huge numbers--in this case, a static GCD.
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    Zetsu Tei
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuloon View Post
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    GCD incorporation isn't the only way to create some sort of delay when using mudras. For the second time, incorprating a 0.5 second animation for mudras is exactly the same system we currently have. If I were to queue up 3 0.5 second animation OFF GCD skills consecutively with little latency, it would take around 1.5 seconds to complete them all. Exactly the same as what we currently have with mudras. The only difference beside the obvious delay that comes with having split second duration GCDs is that you won't be able to double up on mudras. But there's no incorporation of 2 of the same mudra in a single ninjutsu so the only reason anyone would double up mudra these days is latency.

    It doesn't make the system easier, there's no "spamming skills" that come with it. It is literally the exact same system we have in place.
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    Last edited by Massterchef; 12-20-2014 at 07:00 AM.