The Ultimate Black Mage Resources with Damage Calculator

[hallena]

I see, well if the maths are favorable for a lilith piety build over full 130/135, i'd be glad to try it out. 6 fire + extra chance at firestarter sound fun.
It just suck you're dependant on food and a scholar in order for the build to be playable

[Aikaal]

Wouldn't this work by simply having one 110 crafted gear (belt) with piety. piety lilith then respec your int point into piety so you don't have to give up any secondary stats?

I see your point and it's a valid one. The cap on Piety on pants is 13. I put 12 Piety on it so you could say this is 12 int. 130 Pants gives 11. The reason I picked those crafted pants is because they are cap acc and second spd. It's easy to cap those.

The belt is a given, crafted 110 is BiS period.

You get 12 piety on the headpiece for the lost of 7 int.

However, it would be good to compare 26 Pie Lilith versus Dreadwyrm with 26 Pie, 4 Int spec.

Does 19 Int + 8 Det > 2 WD + 4 Spd + 37 Crit?

The spreadsheet would suggest Dreadwyrm is better but stats are dynamic, someone would need to do the calcs. Puro-senpai~

[StouterTaru]

The cap on Piety on pants is 13.

Are you sure about this? Ariyala has been wrong about PIE caps on caster gear in the past, and based on other gear it should be 22 for Body/Pants. Head/Hands/Feet cap at +13, Belt at +10.

[Aikaal]

Are you sure about this? Ariyala has been wrong about PIE caps on caster gear in the past, and based on other gear it should be 22 for Body/Pants. Head/Hands/Feet cap at +13, Belt at +10.

It could be higher but I can't test it myself right now I don't have spared pants lol. I'm pretty confident Lilith can't get 31 pie.

*edits*

The cap is 22 on the pants so you can put an extra pie 4 on it and put a quicktongue 4 on the head to get extra speed.

[Odowla]

The spreadsheet would suggest Dreadwyrm is better but stats are dynamic, someone would need to do the calcs. Puro-senpai~

I think we can all agree 1100 or so damage per rotation > whatever damage increase Dreadwyrm gives you. (depends on your average fire, and that number still doesnt include fire 3's.)

[Aikaal]

I think we can all agree 1100 or so damage per rotation > whatever damage increase Dreadwyrm gives you. (depends on your average fire, and that number still doesnt include fire 3's.)

You could have the 6 fire rotation with the dreadwym staff and spec 25 piety and 5 int.

[Uninstall]

I think we can all agree 1100 or so damage per rotation > whatever damage increase Dreadwyrm gives you. (depends on your average fire, and that number still doesnt include fire 3's.)

I don't think everyone can agree on that.

[StouterTaru]

I think we can all agree 1100 or so damage per rotation > whatever damage increase Dreadwyrm gives you. (depends on your average fire, and that number still doesnt include fire 3's.)

The 6 fire rotation gives roughly 2% more damage with the other stats the same, but your other stats aren't the same. You give up DET and Crit to get your PIE.

You can also hit 315 without swapping out from your bonus stats fairly easily:
http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/OVTV

The pants would really have 9 more piety than shown, getting you 300 base, +6 from ponze, +9 from SCH = 315.

[Aikaal]

http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/OVTV

Looks solid, With Lilith

I think I still prefer this build even if it might do less damage for two reasons:
- It will be better once the relic is 135
- Crafted accessories 110 will be BiS regardless. 18 Int + 6 Pie is too good with this build.

[PuroStrider]

Mmmm...

Pretty sure I put in somewhere F1x6 will give +2.3% DPS increase over F1x5 rotation given all gears/stats are the same.

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As for PIE build.. please don't respec PIE.

1 point of INT is worth much more than any 1 point of secondary stat. (no shit puro)

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I'll go through some stuff and figure out more build with zodiac based on your inputs some time this week...

My angus is not peppered for how the expansion will affect all the data in my spread though...

Yoshi pls... have mercy.. D: