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[Sleigh]

1. Is Spellspeed/det Lilith rod better than the Augmented Ironworks?

It depends on ACC. Max DET with full CHR/SS Lilith Rod is a bit stronger than i130, but the i130 has ACC on it that, if you can utilize it and turn other ACC pieces into DPS sub-stats, will make it a bit better. For example, not counting the weapon, currently I have 495 minimum ACC using completely max DPS equipment available to me right now. In content where 495 is ACC capped, Lilith Rod is strictly better, but in T13 (515 ACC required) I switch to i130 and use Sachertorte food.

I can't speak at all of the 6 Fire rotation, I haven't tested it.

[StouterTaru]

Is it not worth it without the 6 Fire setup? (assuming that's what you mean by Piety set)

Piety increases damage in steps, while each single Piety you put on is a loss of another stat lowering your damage a little.

250 PIE - Flare > Convert > Fire2 > Flare
302 PIE - UI3 > Fire3 > 6x Fire > B3 > B1
309 PIE - Fire3 > 4x Fire2 > Flare
315 PIE - UI3 > Fire3 > 6x Fire > B3 > Thunder

If you don't hit at least 302, then there is no reason to go past 250.

[Aikaal]

Is it not worth it without the 6 Fire setup? (assuming that's what you mean by Piety set)

Lilith Piety Build

I haven't test it yet because I am farming the Soldiery to remeld my Lilith Rod. I heard so many good comments about the 6 fires rotation and BLMs in my server are speculating it's better than the current BiS with Dreadwyrm Staff so I want to see for myself. This build will only work under certain circonstances.
- You race need a base of 22 Piety. 21 if you sac 9 crit.
- LOT of Spd. 1,99 GCD with Selene, 2,18 without
- SCH piety buff + Ponzecake required
- 5900+ HP with Vit buff

You gain 33 Det + 54 Spd + 1 Fire in your rotation versus 2 WD, 26 Int, 118 Crit

I'm not good with maths but I would beleive that an extra fire makes Spell Speed even better than the current value

[StouterTaru]

Lilith Piety Build

I'm expecting +26 PIE on Lilith based on WHM/SCH weapons at 120/130.

[Aikaal]

I'm expecting +26 PIE on Lilith based on WHM/SCH weapons at 120/130.

Yeah... this is not steady science. It could be 25 based on WHM or 26. I just prefer the worst case scenario since I haven't remeld yet. Regardless, if Lilith ends up with 26 Piety, it only means you can use this build with a 21 piety race. This still mean Dunefolk Lalas are BLM Master Race :3

My current Lilith has 49 Spd and 35 Crit (84 stats) I have seen some triple stats Zodiac with 83 stats so it would make sense that Lilith will give 26 Piety.
26 Pie + 8 Det + 49 Spd = 83 stats.

[StouterTaru]

110 True Ice Cane is 23, same as Novus
115 a couple WHM weapons have 24, same as Nexus
120 Ironworks Magitek Cane is 25
125 Lilith ?
130 Augmented Magitek Cane is 27
135 Dread Codex is 28

I can't say 100% for another week or two, but I am definitely expecting 26. Either way SCH will put me up to 315 with +24SS/+12PIE on head/hands/feet, without food.

[Aikaal]

I can't say 100% for another week or two, but I am definitely expecting 26. Either way SCH will put me up to 315 with +24SS/+12PIE on head/hands/feet, without food.

You are probably right then, it's 26.

What's overall all your stats? You do lose the juicy 29 Spd from hands and feets... I know for a fact crafted belt is superior to any 130 belt even with the lost of 4 Det for the piety. The only better food I'd see is Sachertorte. You do gain 3 Spd but you don't cap the 8 det compared to the ponzecake that cap the piety. I'll get to 316 Pie with a 26 Pie relic + Food + SCH

[StouterTaru]

I'm still in SCoB, so I'm not where your stats are at. I normally use Lava Toad Legs, if I had higher Accuracy I guess I could swap out feet or gloves for belt and ponzecakes.

I guess if I was starting from scratch right now I'd go with +26 on weapon, +21 on pants, +9 on belt, and +7 from ponzecakes.

[hallena]

Lilith Piety Build

I haven't test it yet because I am farming the Soldiery to remeld my Lilith Rod. I heard so many good comments about the 6 fires rotation and BLMs in my server are speculating it's better than the current BiS with Dreadwyrm Staff so I want to see for myself. This build will only work under certain circonstances.
- You race need a base of 22 Piety. 21 if you sac 9 crit.
- LOT of Spd. 1,99 GCD with Selene, 2,18 without
- SCH piety buff + Ponzecake required
- 5900+ HP with Vit buff

You gain 33 Det + 54 Spd + 1 Fire in your rotation versus 2 WD, 26 Int, 118 Crit

I'm not good with maths but I would beleive that an extra fire makes Spell Speed even better than the current value

Wouldn't this work by simply having one 110 crafted gear (belt) with piety. piety lilith then respec your int point into piety so you don't have to give up any secondary stats?

[StouterTaru]

Wouldn't this work by simply having one 110 crafted gear (belt) with piety. piety lilith then respec your int point into piety so you don't have to give up any secondary stats?

Penta-melded 110 is comparable to 130 in many cases. I could see giving up 1-2 INT to fine tune if you were right on the edge, but not all 30.

With pants you can give up 11 INT/12 VIT for 18 PIE, and still come out +8 on secondary stats. Body/Pants are the worst trade-off, the other slots are more favorable.