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    Quote Originally Posted by CUTS3R View Post
    I dont get the issue with the gunner job potentially being the new healer... Its still a new job, this alone is awesome.
    The issue primarily is:

    Look back at 1.0 (2010 release), when your character held the gun it was not with the intention on healing their target.
    Look back at Merlywb's introduction - when she killed..quite a bit of imperials, she certainly didn't heal them with her guns.
    Look at 2.x - Any enemy or NPC that uses a gun, do they heal you? Or are they damaging you?

    So there's nothing "wrong" perse, however just about every gunner present in XIV as of now is certainly not a healer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    The issue primarily is:

    Look back at 1.0 (2010 release), when your character held the gun it was not with the intention on healing their target.
    Look back at Merlywb's introduction - when she killed..quite a bit of imperials, she certainly didn't heal them with her guns.
    Look at 2.x - Any enemy or NPC that uses a gun, do they heal you? Or are they damaging you?

    So there's nothing "wrong" perse, however just about every gunner present in XIV as of now is certainly not a healer.
    Only issue with this is that it isn't likely to be healing you with the gun itself, but is a healer that uses a gun. It's much in the same way that a White Mage is not healing you by hitting you over the head with the staff, the weapon doesn't matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirron View Post
    Only issue with this is that it isn't likely to be healing you with the gun itself, but is a healer that uses a gun. It's much in the same way that a White Mage is not healing you by hitting you over the head with the staff, the weapon doesn't matter.
    The issue with this though, it has to be balanced around the fact you're a healer first and foremost, which means the gun would be an afterthought in that type of design. Which is why unless everything dramatically changes, there's no indication whatsoever gunners in the XIV world are actually even capable of healing as all of their skills and attributes are that of a pure DPS. The CNJ/WHM example is per lore they're more weaving aether through the weapon, much like THM/BLM and ACN/SCH manipulates it in a different way through the weapon - Thus a gunner would have to do so through their gun as your weapon = what you are in this world.

    It's not like FFXI where for example a warrior could have their axe equipped and still cast White/Black/Blue Magic or Ninjitsu without having to be that specific job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirron View Post
    Only issue with this is that it isn't likely to be healing you with the gun itself, but is a healer that uses a gun. It's much in the same way that a White Mage is not healing you by hitting you over the head with the staff, the weapon doesn't matter.
    I smell a healer that doesn't heal but wants to use the gun instead, hello next bard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StouterTaru View Post
    I smell a healer that doesn't heal but wants to use the gun instead, hello next bard.
    Cleric Stance already exists, not like it'd be exclusive to this new healer. Might be more prevalent, but I don't think it'll be that bad all in all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    The issue primarily is:

    Look back at 1.0 (2010 release), when your character held the gun it was not with the intention on healing their target.
    Look back at Merlywb's introduction - when she killed..quite a bit of imperials, she certainly didn't heal them with her guns.
    Look at 2.x - Any enemy or NPC that uses a gun, do they heal you? Or are they damaging you?

    So there's nothing "wrong" perse, however just about every gunner present in XIV as of now is certainly not a healer.
    exept we are not the admiral nor the pirate from limsa, we are adventurer, the warrior of light... we are more than the normal people. and people need to stop to ask for class from tanaka time... msk was a promise of tanaka... not yoshida, he did only said that a gunner class/jobs was needed, never he did mention msk. that player that still asking for msk.

    by the way i will not be surprise that the gunner will not be a DD, do a new DD ranged will have any role in the game and bring anything new? not sure, however another healer can be a plus. just my 2 cents....
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
    msk was a promise of tanaka... not yoshida, he did only said that a gunner class/jobs was needed, never he did mention msk. that player that still asking for msk.
    what i think:
    Gunner = japanese name
    Musketeer = english name

    Also, if Yoshida didn't promise Musketeer, why is then still the Musketeer logo on the Coral Tower banner?
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    Last edited by Felis; 12-16-2014 at 07:41 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    what i think:
    Gunner = japanese name
    Musketeer = english name

    Also, if Yoshida didn't promise Musketeer, why is then still the Musketeer logo on the Coral Tower banner?
    All will be revealed Saturday!
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