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    Magis's Avatar
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    Aug 2013
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    Ul'dah
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    Magis Luagis
    World
    Excalibur
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by tocsin View Post
    if it isn't game breaking, its P2P, Pay to Progress, not P2W. P2W requires winning, which means breaking the game.
    You have received an advantage, you have skipped the time investment compared to other players. You can get the best gear, both in combat and crafting classes with melded gear. You can skip large portions of the relic grind by just purchasing the materia vs grinding it. As well, you beat out other players in buying things like housing, materials, minions, etc without having to actually do anything besides punch in your credit card. You are literally paying to advance yourself in FFXIV. While you can't "win" in an MMO since there is no end, you are winning at the main point of the game which is advancement. Especially when it comes to things that are in directed competition with other players, IE the market. Cool, you can now buy the best house in the district, while those guys grinding and farming to get the money get screwed over. But it's not p2w guys.

    This doesn't even cover the fact that this is being done while everyone pays a subscription fee. P2W wouldn't be as much as a problem if we weren't already paying a sub on top of things.

    It's funny how those goal posts keep moving. Everyone was saying "oh it won't be P2W", and now it's "p2w is actually good guys".
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    Last edited by Magis; 12-15-2014 at 02:49 PM.