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  1. #31
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    kyuven's Avatar
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    Chen Kotomi
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    Adamantoise
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    Archer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Hiruke View Post
    Getting lucky and grinding, THAT'S THE FUTURE OF MMOS!
    Um, future? You do realize that one of the major and most pervasive complaints about MMOs goes all the way back to the very, VERY first ones where you killed 20 rats and not one of them seemed to have tails, right?
    I mean, RNG-related quests are as ubiquitous to MMOs as people complaining on the forums.
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  2. #32
    Player Buff_Archer's Avatar
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    Buff Archer
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    Diabolos
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    Summoner Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by kyuven View Post
    I mean, RNG-related quests are as ubiquitous to MMOs as people complaining on the forums.
    In that case, I'll do my very best to uphold my half of that bargain.
    (1)

  3. #33
    Player SantaClaw's Avatar
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    L' Ash
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    Masamune
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    Gladiator Lv 16
    People still doing relic now?
    What the hell you guys thinking? What are you trying to prove by getting it? Haha!
    (1)

  4. #34
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    Keisatsu's Avatar
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    Kei Satsu
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    Tonberry
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    I actually find this quest quite tame..maybe its because I have no intention of rushing it after that horrid light grind burnout..

    One drop a day, assuming I've prepared everything else (6.4k sol, 400kg, crafted HQ items + 80k GC seals) and I'll have it in 16 days doing it at my own pace. It's not really that troublesome at all..

    Now IF I did light grinding at my own pace..hahaha..ha..
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  5. #35
    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    Miles Saintborough
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    Balmung
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SantaClaw View Post
    People still doing relic now?
    What the hell you guys thinking? What are you trying to prove by getting it? Haha!
    Not too long ago, people of your mindset threw a tantrum over Nexus being on par with High Allagan weapons. Careful who you mock
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  6. #36
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    gamesmart's Avatar
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    Marcus Deston
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    Behemoth
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Sethra View Post
    IMO this sucks worse that the unnerfed Atma grind. At least a fate is over in few minutes. Now it is wait 30+ min for dungeon in DF, spend 30+ min running dungeon, THEN get nothing. Repeat this five or six times or more for just one drop. Do the math. I have a life and this is a bit much.
    As a BLM I've never had more than 12 minute queues to get into a specific dungeon, 6 if I'm queueing for as many as I can. We're on the same data center, so unless you're not playing 12 PM - 12 AM PST then I have a hard time believing you, sorry. Also, you don't have to queue as the job you're getting the relic on, nor do you have to have the relic equipped to get the drop.
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  7. #37
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    LemsfordRolfe's Avatar
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    Lemsford Rolfe
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    Famfrit
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Keisatsu View Post
    I actually find this quest quite tame..maybe its because I have no intention of rushing it after that horrid light grind burnout..

    One drop a day, assuming I've prepared everything else (6.4k sol, 400kg, crafted HQ items + 80k GC seals) and I'll have it in 16 days doing it at my own pace. It's not really that troublesome at all..

    Now IF I did light grinding at my own pace..hahaha..ha..
    I thought the same thing. "One drop a day" I told myself. Now it's been 48 hours and have been spamming the dungeons pretty hard and I have absolutely nothing to show for it except indignation.
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  8. #38
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    Kinseykinz's Avatar
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    Isagael Rose
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    Sagittarius
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    Botanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Hiruke View Post
    I suspect two things:





    2) Dev team assuredly believes we should go back to old content repeatedly, for everything, to carry everyone on our backs, now that they are finally getting to that content. They may be trying too hard in the wrong way to keep things relevant.

    It's not just a 'go back and help the noobs thing' you know. It's also a 'make sure that they keep playing more than 5-10% of the content' Sure, when you go back, if you queued via the roulette/without a full group you may or may not be helping folk through those instances...but the reality is, if you wanna farm fast, you likely form a team. Still, it means your team, that otherwise wouldn't have thought 'gee, lets go into DD today!' will actually now consider it...thus expanding the content you do.

    I'm personally still farming lights...and not going to lie, so far I feel THAT's the 'worst part' of the questline...even though I have 'princess' WHM queues and even though it's cut and dry. Do x amount of runs in y place=finished. I just was never big into over-grinding content. And while some folk are in fact 'getting stuck' with bad luck in one dungeon or another(whom I'd like to point out are also rushing this content and attempting to finish it faster than the devs intended...hence your burnout) the reality is, the quest hasn't even been out a week yet, and people are already reporting solid progress.

    So it can't be that bad/random.

    @OP: Almost everything in this game is RNG.... What drops when you beat a primal? RNG. Who wins the lot? RNG. If anything, be thankful it seems to be that:
    1. The drop rates/chances aren't nearly set as low as they were for ATMA
    2. You can do this portion of the questline on any role you wish....so you could queue tank/healer if faster queues suit you better....or you could do farming/work on a secondary weapon etc with your support role and still get the goods. (this is the first time in the entire relic line this is true btw).

    But really, give it more than a week folks. As this stage was most assuredly not designed/intended to be done in 1-3 days.
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  9. #39
    Player
    Keisatsu's Avatar
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    Kei Satsu
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    Tonberry
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by LemsfordRolfe View Post
    I thought the same thing. "One drop a day" I told myself. Now it's been 48 hours and have been spamming the dungeons pretty hard and I have absolutely nothing to show for it except indignation.
    should also set yourself an hour quota like.."Either 1 drop a day or 3 hours of dungeons..whichever comes first." That way you won't be burning yourself out! @.@
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  10. #40
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    Sethra Lavode
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    Famfrit
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    Black Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by gamesmart View Post
    As a BLM I've never had more than 12 minute queues to get into a specific dungeon, 6 if I'm queueing for as many as I can. We're on the same data center, so unless you're not playing 12 PM - 12 AM PST then I have a hard time believing you, sorry. Also, you don't have to queue as the job you're getting the relic on, nor do you have to have the relic equipped to get the drop.
    Excuse me for not playing by your schedule and for wanting to play my main.
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