The Zodiac Quests need to be adjusted / fine-tuned on a patch-by-patch basis

[Coatl]

What he's saying is that if you don't have a nexus by now, then your weapon isn't even stronger than a drop you can get from running shiva EX 5 times. So if a new player is to come into the relic line at this very moment they would have to do a lot of time wasting just to compete with what they can get with way less effort.

The Atma rate buff was a nice buff, but it was one that needed to come much sooner. The animus books are cheap enough but some of the enemy/fates required need to be cut down, and the novus needs to not require 75 alexandrites.

[loreleidiangelo]

What he's saying is that if you don't have a nexus by now, then your weapon isn't even stronger than a drop you can get from running shiva EX 5 times. So if a new player is to come into the relic line at this very moment they would have to do a lot of time wasting just to compete with what they can get with way less effort.

This.

I think the point that is getting lost here is not that each INDIVIDUAL step is too hard, but that trying to get them all done QUICKLY in order to catch up if you are a new or returning player is near impossible. I swapped from WHM to SMN for raid and am pursuing the relic because the Ironworks book is garbage (on Animus stage ATM lmao), but I guarantee I'll have the Dreadwyrm grimoire before I'm done so I'm kind of wondering why I'm even bothering. >__>

I guess my cold comfort is that the relic quest isn't really MANDATORY, but I miss when the weapons were a skill check (two trial fights and HM primals) rather than a timesink. Not sure why they introduced a tomesink weapon IN ADDITION to the relic when they could have just gated the relic behind tome caps like they used to.

[Hyunckel]

What he's saying is that if you don't have a nexus by now, then your weapon isn't even stronger than a drop you can get from running shiva EX 5 times. So if a new player is to come into the relic line at this very moment they would have to do a lot of time wasting just to compete with what they can get with way less effort.

The Atma rate buff was a nice buff, but it was one that needed to come much sooner. The animus books are cheap enough but some of the enemy/fates required need to be cut down, and the novus needs to not require 75 alexandrites.

Yep that's why I don't bother with it lol. Getting the ilv 80 and then 90 Relic Weapon is easy and fast. The Atma is quite doable too.

Grinding for weeks to get the 75 Alexandrites + 75 Materia is a major pain in the rear for a guy who got to Lv.50 10 days ago =)

That's why I use the ilv.110 Soldiery weapon lol.

[NolLacnala]

That moment when you realize SE is just using Relic to push old content

Not enough people spamming Fates? ATMA!
Not enough people spamming Garuda Hard? Lights!
Not enough people spamming crappy, outdated dungeons outside of Expert Roulette? ....

[Meier]

Yup, reused content like this needs to go.

Give us unique boss fights, 8 man instances , fraction leves, etc. Stop putting legendary relics with reused, boring content

[Remus]

Yeah, it seems they are not even trying with the new relic quests now. When it first released it was fun doing trials made specifically for it and fighting primals for the items which are 100% drop. Now its just using the relic quest to fix their past issues with not enough people doing fates, people having slow queues so they make last step dungeon grind to make low levels get carried and hard mode primals with light to get people past that as well. I am really disappointed in SE because they turned a good idea into a a boring grind and this led to people not caring about the relic. I mean after the way people responded about rng they do it again? It just shows they don't really care so long they get what they want in the end faster queues for people and making the world feel alive when PS4 version released with Atma. Also why link it to crafting? I mean really why? I dont understand and why 3 star mean wtf? gg SE gg...

[Sethra]

I am really disappointed in SE because they turned a good idea into a a boring grind and this led to people not caring about the relic.

This. I had to stop working on Zodiak because it stopped being fun -- and "fun," is I believe what we are all paying for here.

[Deathscythe343]

Yeah, it seems they are not even trying with the new relic quests now. When it first released it was fun doing trials made specifically for it and fighting primals for the items which are 100% drop.

On a side note, I am kind of disappointed with the relic quest and upgrade. It's the same for everyone. For a company that tries to go with the lore as much as possible, this is one of those things that they just didn't do. It would be nice if the quest for each class/job was unique to them. I think it would also make the whole process more rewarding.

[Reiryuu]

Totally in agreement with this. I came back on 2.4 just after leaving since 2.2... I grinded the atma, began books... saw the new relic quest and said screw it.

[ElieDavion]

and in a few months, we'll have expansion; probably with lv 60 relics, at which point the ones we have now, won't be used anymore.

wich is exactly why the relic isnt rewarding anymore they have been always subpar to the coil weapons at this point of time its better to just not do it get a primal weapon and go on to coil to get the dreadwyrm one or the ironworks one and then wait for heavensward for the new relic