The Zodiac Quests need to be adjusted / fine-tuned on a patch-by-patch basis

[MilesSaintboroguh]

Square boosted the Atma drops, so that's a first step. However, I can safely bet that they will take a LONG time to ease the other steps so that there won't be a ton of people suddenly burning through every relic quest and getting the last one in a short time.

[Parodine]

I honestly wouldn't be upset if they even just removed the FATE section of the books at this point. I don't care about making other players sit around miserably for that stupidness at this point. Especially i100 weapons are pretty much falling by the wasteside with Shiva Ex runs.

I definitely don't wanna make a second one, that's for sure. Can't wait for my Nirvana though...

[Kewitt]

They will up the Drop rate of Alex, They will make 100% or close to it at all melds, They will make the new dungeon drops 100% or close to it.
There are lots of little things they can do when people move on to new content to make old content quicker.

Finally. Cash shop for 2.5 final stage Weapon when 3.2 or later comes out. Not pay to win so much as pay to skip outdated content not new content.

[Nicobo]

Before 2.45, I read some players like to say "relic for dummies only", skillful players don't need it etc.
However, everytime I saw ppl equipped it, at least I know this player has drive his job long enough like an experienced pilot.

So now suddely I feel relic is the greatest joke in ARR. ^^;

[Lillia]

If their plan is to use the relics from pre-expansion for the post expansion quest and upgrade, there would have to be significant nerfs to the current upgrade process as a whole. The reason for this is that when the expansion comes out significantly less of the population will be doing that content, which means that significantly less of the population will be able to help with the parts that cannot be soloed. Things like the fates and dungeons.

If this is their plan and they do not make major changes, then it seems their only other logical option would be to create a kind of catch up quest that would serve as the upgrade.

Or we can socialize with others and maybe sometimes our friends will want to do contents with us when they want a break from their own? :x

[Windklinge]

heavensward will reset the relic questline somehow. either there will be new questline. the only thing you would get from having maxed lvl 50 relic would probaly be that you can trade it in and get the new one insantly while new players would have to do the new quest first. there is just no way all the current things have to be done in order still for a new player on 3.0 as that would be outright stupid doing all that for an lvl 50 item thats totally outdated in every way compared to a lvl 60 easy to get weapon. nobody in his right mind would do that ever.

the only way this would work is trough MASSIV nerfs to the current line aka heavly streamlining it. there is just nothing else that can happen. i dont think yoschi wants to piss new possible customers off and heavensward will very likely bring lots of em. it wouldnt be very smart from a selling point of view guys. so dont hold your breath on your current relic i say.

[Deathscythe343]

Or we can socialize with others and maybe sometimes our friends will want to do contents with us when they want a break from their own? :x

Perhaps. However I wouldn't want some new player or one returning from a long absence to be counting on that. And if they cannot get friends help, then what?

[ruskie]

Animus FATEs were annoying to camp. Getting the alexandrite was a nice thing and not toooo grindy. Getting light though... especially if you want to play other jobs as well(like heal, tank to help out people) is what bugs me the most. But yeah I don't expect them to boost light for a while so until then gonna be making some gil off of the stuff that's needed for the zodiac upgrades.

[Craiger]

As someone who just switched jobs, I kinda feel gated from a lot at the moment... And I know I'm gonna get a lot of stick for it, but that won't change my opinion...

I know that higher than an ilvl 115 weapon isn't needed if I'm not progressing in Final Coil, but that doesn't mean I want to stay with this weapon forever... and it would make it a little easier doing Final coil too.

My options are to either grind grind grind for the new Relic (from scratch), which would take me forever... or just wait for the new CT and hope it will drop the item that lets me get the 120 Ironworks weapon. Would probably take the same amount of time, which is a long time. But even then, 120 won't be that good, because the relic is 125, and I'm sure people are already on their way towards 130 or 135 relic weapon by then...

At the moment it feels like if you want to stay relevant with your weapon, you either have to keep playing on 1 job for all eternity and keep farming the new relic quests... or get a static and go hardcore to get the weapon from Final Coil.

I don't want to do either of those, so please SE, offer some more alternatives, or just make the Relic quest up to the new quest, a lot easier... At least if you have done the quests with another job, there should be some bonus the second time. I mean, you can get a 115 weapon by killing Shiva (very easy fight) 5 times if you're lucky... Meanwhile getting Nexus from scratch takes months. Makes no sense

[Radacci]

they do make it easier over time...all the time.
zenith items has gotten cheaper, with every new tome introduced.
echo made the trials a lot easier, so does higher ilv, and nerfing mechanics.
atma drops have increased.
book prices has dropped a lot.
fate spawn rates have increased.
there's still linkshells that are focused on light farming.
and in a few months, we'll have expansion; probably with lv 60 relics, at which point the ones we have now, won't be used anymore.