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    Quote Originally Posted by tocsin View Post
    Actually, it ties the in-game currency to a real world currency, which, like a gold standard, actually strengthens the market dynamic. it can lead to deflation, making what gil SE gives us worth more.

    Times where the economy has been tied to the gold standard have been some of the most stable periods in history. maybe this will stabilize the in game markets as well.
    Which is why many countries' currencies are still tied to the gold standar ... oh wait.

    Ezorea is a separate world, we play it because it's a separate world.

    What next? You got to send $€ a video of you benching 400lbs to be a good WAR?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bishop81 View Post
    Which is why many countries' currencies are still tied to the gold standar ... oh wait.

    Ezorea is a separate world, we play it because it's a separate world.

    What next? You got to send $€ a video of you benching 400lbs to be a good WAR?
    I actually play it because its fun. I'm not sure why you do though.

    and the reasoning why current countries are not tied to the gold standard is because the rise of debt in world economies has led to countries having to print money to cover their own costs. this inflated money, and the elimination of the gold standard allowed for countries to print more money without requiring it be backed by anything.

    bad politics aside, SE doesnt have in game dbts, so a gold standard can work in game. EVE online does it, and has one of the strongest economies of any game out there. We arent the size or quality of EVE, as FFXIV is an inferior game in terms of economic quality and server density, however the method still applies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tocsin View Post
    I actually play it because its fun. I'm not sure why you do though.

    and the reasoning why current countries are not tied to the gold standard is because the rise of debt in world economies has led to countries having to print money to cover their own costs. this inflated money, and the elimination of the gold standard allowed for countries to print more money without requiring it be backed by anything.

    bad politics aside, SE doesnt have in game dbts, so a gold standard can work in game. EVE online does it, and has one of the strongest economies of any game out there. We arent the size or quality of EVE, as FFXIV is an inferior game in terms of economic quality and server density, however the method still applies.
    I play it for fun too.

    But what fun is there if the playing field isn't somewhat level. Do you think a scrawny 14 year old who is just learning the ropes will have fun fighting against Mike Tyson in his prime?

    RL rich people will be the Mike Tysons of this game's economy.

    You also forgot to mention gold backed money isn't 100% stable either, discovery of gold deposits will upset the value.

    Technically all money is fiat money, even gold ... which is way over valued given it's utility to man. Money has no intrinsic value. Money is just a promise to pay in goods and services. The US dollar is backed by the capacity of the USA to produce goods and services of value.
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    This argument is about thresholds, where everyone's personal point of breaking is. Nothing has changed except how it now -personally- affects all of us. I am against any extra real money involved beyond account services, but I'd much prefer the items being sellable/tradable if there is going to be a cash shop.

    The pay gate is a -genuine- lock against certain content being received if you can not afford it, while the advantage of being able to spend money to get gil is a limited one. There is only so far someone can go in this game with gil, and there is nothing stopping anyone else here from being on equal grounds if they work. I will admit we all don't have the time to make hundreds of millions of gil, if you can admit that someone with that much gil has a minor advantage and does not possess anything that is impossible to obtain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bishop81 View Post
    I play it for fun too.

    But what fun is there if the playing field isn't somewhat level. Do you think a scrawny 14 year old who is just learning the ropes will have fun fighting against Mike Tyson in his prime?

    RL rich people will be the Mike Tysons of this game's economy.

    You also forgot to mention gold backed money isn't 100% stable either, discovery of gold deposits will upset the value.

    Technically all money is fiat money, even gold ... which is way over valued given it's utility to man. Money has no intrinsic value. Money is just a promise to pay in goods and services. The US dollar is backed by the capacity of the USA to produce goods and services of value.
    So let me try to understand this a bit, you don't think that everyone having the option to buy something off of the mog station is a level field? Because people are selling these wedding bands that the playing field has somehow been skewed?

    Do you think that people who sell new crafted stuff for high gil prices are Mike Tysons' too? To me it seems that anyone who has more gil than you, in your terms, is considered a Mike Tyson.

    A 14 year old can make as much gil as anyone else on any server with the right amount of time and effort so I don't really see your point.

    What exactly do you want level (in terms of a playing field)??
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    Last edited by SinisterIsBack; 12-12-2014 at 08:28 PM.