Cash Shop: Where do you draw the line?

[Orochimaru]

Despite our feelings about the current version of the cash shop (whether it bothers you or not) it is here to stay since its obviously generating extra money for SE. However, that doesn't mean we cant let SE know when they have gone too far.

We all have that “line” so to speak where we will stop and say ‘enough is enough, this has gone too far. I am done’

So plain and simple, in a few words, where do you draw the line on FFXIV Cash Shop, or, has it already been crossed? And why?

Personally, I draw the line if any of the Golden Saucer content (be it mini game lives/tries, booster packs, ext.) is in the cash shop. (Unfortunately I feel this is inevitable).

Reason: Yoshi mentioned recently that many of the features/improvements requested for housing have been put on hold due to the same team working on the Golden Saucer instead (Saucer being something mentioned way back in 1.0). Seeing how poorly the housing ‘improvements’ have been implemented/received, I wonder what else has been on the back burner for cash shop content.

Feedback is needed on this if we want to keep playing this game we once/still enjoyed. It would be great to see where the majority of the forum users ‘draw their line’ for the cash shop.

p.s. Please refrain from belittling others on their decision/where they stand. Look at this thread as an unofficial poll for SE to see where the forum community stands. We all play this game for different reason, and all of them are valid and as important as the other.

[StrejdaTom]

For me the line is already crossed, why? Promise of Devotion is selling on my server for 19M, which is about the same amount of gil I made in about .. 7 months? This just reached definition of pay to win for me.

Dont get me wrong, I am not against cash shop. I have sleipnir and I bought platinum bonding for me and my friend. I am against cash shop affecting the game.

EDIT: I am not ready to leave this game yet, I still enjoy FFXIV alot but.. I was able to leave Lineage II when it became F2P, I was able to leave Aion, when it became F2P and I will leave FFXIV, when I will become really disgusted with the cash shop.

[Aegis]

For me, the line has passed. Unsubbed.

For SE? I imagine the line is the point where the value of sales they make in cash shop monthly no longer exceeds the value of the subs they have lost. It may be that they lose relatively few subs, or even have no net loss at all, in which case the number and variety of items and services will keep increasing. I think we can safely say that there aren't any specific features which would be 'out of bounds' to some form of monetization.

[Bishop81]

For me the line has long been crossed. It's really a binary situation to me, either RL money affects the game or it doesn't.

The attempts by some on the forums to "define" this line for us, using some "logic" to justify their position, are pointless.

What is and isn't "optional" varies from player to player. You are "OK with it" until what you consider "mandatory" goes P2W.

For SE, the line is by and large where they drawn it at that particular moment - i.e. it's completely arbitrary; I suppose if there is a "guiding principle", it would be "will this sell".

[o3o]

For me, the line has passed. Unsubbed.

why are you still looking at the forums then???

Also all they sell is vanity stuff on the shop. You can sell the ring if you really wanted to for gil. But I don't think they will be a very high demand item considering how everyone can get the normal one for free.

[Exsequens]

Crossed the line with Eternal Bond.

If I want a fancier wedding in Eorzea, I should be allowed to pay for that with Gil. When they decided to charge real money for that, well that's when they crossed the line.

I mean at least give us the option to pay for it with Gil - Come on.

[Fue]

why are you still looking at the forums then???

Light at the end of the tunnel

[Adrian74]

the line has ben passed:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...45-Feedback%29

[Atreides]

Currently I'm dissappointed, the wedding isn't the real issue imo.
I wouldn't mind paying for it, but that you can sell it is a huge let down for me.
The reason I play P2P games is so that I have my money spending in check, I know myself well enough that I might go the lazy route and sell a wedding just to make a quick buck IG and I don't want that.
The line is already crossed but when they start to charge for Gold Saucer it's over.

[Shadray]

Lock-boxes! Let's face it, it's only a matter of time. I think that's the line.