Lost 3m for the DC，SE you win, I quit this game

[Vorpal_Spork]

I have spent whole month to get the stupid ehcatl Sealants and whole day to get the 75 primary tool. I was asking myself why I am doing the stupid daily quests every day for nothing.

When I finally get everything by buying those stupid things and making them, DC.

I have lost so many gils because of DC. I am tired to suffering from this.

I cannot play the any Ex or T5-9 dungeons for the lagging, so I became a crafter.
But now, it seems like I cannot play crafting anymore.

It becomes more and more difficult for new crafters to join the market. My friends are leaving this game because it takes too many time.
You guys are making this game become more and more complex, you make us leave.

Good bye, SE.

Your internet isn't going to suddenly stop sucking in your new game. I don't have any lag or disconnection problems so it isn't the servers.

[Bubblegum01]

Wow revelation! Just because you don't have dc issue it doesn't exist. I guess cancer doesn't exist too since you don't have it. Those people in poverty MUST be lying too!

[Mancub22]

Screw this game, spent the entire day farming mats and crafting to get those master demis from desynth. All I have to show for a days work is about 20 gold nuggets and a couple fieldcraft 3's, made no progression whatsoever. I at least like to have a little sense of accomplishment after hours of grinding and crafting but nope, a day completely wasted. I'm done with this joke of a game.

[Defteros]

Screw this game, spent the entire day farming mats and crafting to get those master demis from desynth. All I have to show for a days work is about 20 gold nuggets and a couple fieldcraft 3's, made no progression whatsoever. I at least like to have a little sense of accomplishment after hours of grinding and crafting but nope, a day completely wasted. I'm done with this joke of a game.

does the artisan main hand desynth into fieldcraft 3 too? o_o

[Cerick]

Your internet isn't going to suddenly stop sucking in your new game. I don't have any lag or disconnection problems so it isn't the servers.

I play the game with my wife sitting right next to me on the same connection from the same switch connected to the same router all through direct connect 100 Mbps and not wireless. My wife disconnects 90ks at least 1-2 times a night. We have practically the exact same PC build, same OS, same Network Card, same video card and same drivers etc.. as they were built from scratch.

We play quite a few MMOs together and have noticed that FF14 definitely seems to be the least stable of any that we have played ( Everquest, Aion, SWTOR, FF14 to name some ) EQ for example, we have literally sat online for days as it does not have an afk timer. Aion the same thing, just put a piece of paper in the tab key to scroll through everyone around you while a private store is setup to sell items... hour to days and rarely get DC'd. FF14, only my wife gets DC'd nightly while I do not.

I'll be the first one to check for hardware issues in the case above since it is only my wife that is DC'd, but seeing as how other games do not DC us, very easy deduction points to server issues on SE side.

[ColdHearted]

Why blame SE? Check your ISP. Just because you don't DC and she does- doesn't mean there isn't packet loss somewhere between the router and the machine. Are you both playing FFXIV at the same time? Use 192.168.100.1 to check your modem's status, the forward should be between 10 and -10 and the reverse should be under 50 (at least in our system it is that way). You should also have 0 corrected or uncorrected code words. You can also use the IP of the router to log into it and check the settings. Do you have priorities set? does yours take priority over hers and therefore when a slow down occurs on the ISP side she is the one getting kicked? Run a speed test and a ping test on each machine (not at the same time), do the results match? What IP is the router assigning? If yours is a lower number than hers and the router does not have the ability to set priorities, yours takes priority. How in depth is your network? Adding pieces of eq adds "hops" or numbers of jumps a piece of data has to go through and back. did you try to hardwire her machine to the modem to see if the problem persists? Have you swapped her Cat5 cable with yours? Have you swapped ports on the router? Does she have any background programs running that you don't (torrents are a big one). Just a few ideas, feel free to ask any questions you have here, I will eventually answer.

[Shneibel]

Seriously, why don't we have a resume craft option? I don't see how that could be exploited, as long as it put you exactly where you left off before DC or a df queue.

because of abuse, abuse and abuse

[Cerick]

Why blame SE? Check your ISP....

I've tested the cables, the router, and the switch that is connected to the router. I've even replaced my Modem and Switch recently to update them to be identical across my house. I've hard wired the entire house when it was built. All lines test successful at a gig. Setup is Cable line into the house connects straight to the modem, in turn connects to the router in which it then connects to the switch in my computer room. The switch then is connected to 3 computers in the computer room, 1 printer, and on occasion a 4th computer when I work from home.

It just doesn't make any sense why we don't DC on other games that we leave on AFK for days at a time, but 90k on FF14.

We don't torrent or run intensive programs in the background. Quite literally the computers are used for gaming and that's it. All media is streamed from our network HDD to our TV in our entertainment room. Is it really that hard to believe that SE either has poorly written the code and it is potentially conflicting with drivers and crashes the client or that their servers are not networked efficiently?

Launch time with them rushing to get more servers onboard to cover the large amount of subs and even the recent DDoS attacks that has crashed the instance servers... When you rush a config.. bad things happen even if they are only intermittent.

[Lemuel81]

90k error is on SE side as far as im concerned. While I rarely have it, once in a blue moon does happen and i have a great connection. Its pretty silly to have the mentality of "I dont disconnect, but you do so its your end" Ive had at times my whole FC disconnect at once and sometimes only a handful.

[LineageRazor]

While I sympethize with the OP, it could be worse. Much worse. The crafting system in FFXI was designed such that, no matter how high your skill, no matter what the recipe, there's always a chance of failure (I think a 5% chance?). More than once, I've failed a high-level recipe with ingredients costing millions, and lost everything. It had nothing to do with d/c, and everything to do with RNG.

This was balanced slightly by the fact that a failed synth didn't always lose all ingredients, but it sure did seem like the more expensive ingredients were the ones most likely to be lost. And, of course, some recipes were specially tweaked so that if you failed you were guaranteed to lose all ingredients. Hakutaku Eye Cluster was infamous for this.

On the plus side, if you DID d/c during a synth, the synth would continue to completion server-side, since it's all automatic once you choose the ingredients and start the synth. All in all, I'll take the low chance of a mid-synth d/c in this game over the 5% failure rate in FFXI anyday.