So what if people sell platinum and gold plans for gil?

[Erudain]

Saw someone selling them for 25m today at my lunch break on Leviathan.
Nice, that's enough to buy and resell all the det/crit materia at the MB now; or you have the choice of buying a lovely medium house at Lav. Beds.

[Warlyx]

Can trade the item the dye is applied to though right? (tbh I haven't checked, but that too would be the same thing)

trading gear to dye is a huge risk.... , trade that 5M chest 110i to a random guy selling the new cool dye.......and look how the guy goes offline to never come back again....

[Jandor]

Cash shop items on the market and therefore available for in-game currency works fine in Eve. It's not like you can win FFXIV with gil no matter how much you buy.

[Cid_Grim]

People were angry that the weddings were hidden behind a pay wall. They wanted a way to obtain it in the game with gil.

People figure out they can obtain the wedding in the game with gil only, and are angry about it.

Makes perfect sense.

[CGMidlander]

Cash shop items on the market and therefore available for in-game currency works fine in Eve. It's not like you can win FFXIV with gil no matter how much you buy.

Gil isn't useless though. It speeds many things up immensely and/or reduces reliance on RNG. Some content is straight up gil-gated.
-Materia for relics
-Materia for crafting equipment
-Demimateria
-Crafting mats
-Housing
-Buying stuff, in general
-Some melded stuff is actually preferable to regular equips. (e.g. Melded Ruby accessories for tanks)
...etc.

[Shougun]

Cash shop items on the market and therefore available for in-game currency works fine in Eve. It's not like you can win FFXIV with gil no matter how much you buy.

Someone else did it, so it must be good xD. Also while making comparisons to EVE can be fun, EVE is a different beast, especially economically, you can actually destroy and steal PLEX.

Gil can earn you BiS items - can argue the retainers are also p2w thanks to ventures (imo they should remove ventures from bought retainers), but this is a clear gil buying opportunity. Using real money to get BiS items is p2w in a way I think Yoshida will have a hard time shouting "no p2w" in a crowd and not be a bit dishonest.

trading gear to dye is a huge risk.... , trade that 5M chest 110i to a random guy selling the new cool dye.......and look how the guy goes offline to never come back again....

Yeah :P like I said to the other person, it is definitely not the safest way to buy gil, but it is better than getting banned lol (RMT)

[Zephyranthes]

Cash shop items on the market and therefore available for in-game currency works fine in Eve. It's not like you can win FFXIV with gil no matter how much you buy.

Let SE sell ilvl150 equipments in the cash shop then. Unskilled people with ilvl150 will still not be able to clear final coil anyway.

Saying that it works for other games is not a valid argument here since FF14 is supposed to have a different model.

[Magis]

Love the fact that these white knights defending the cash shop are now going from "OMG IT WON'T BE PAY TO WIN" to "Pay to win is good guys, RMT is good!".

[Ilitsa]

People were angry that the weddings were hidden behind a pay wall. They wanted a way to obtain it in the game with gil.

People figure out they can obtain the wedding in the game with gil only, and are angry about it.

Makes perfect sense.

So much truth here

Love the fact that these white knights defending the cash shop are now going from "OMG IT WON'T BE PAY TO WIN" to "Pay to win is good guys, RMT is good!".

Show me ONE post that ANYONE has said "RMT is good". I'm calling bs right here.

[Magis]

So much truth here



Show me ONE post that ANYONE has said "RMT is good". I'm calling bs right here.

This thread here we are literally posting in? Read OPs posts, it's his/her justification that "well, third party RMT do it, so why not SE to cash in money?"

People buy in game currency in this game anyway. Why do you think RMT people still spam to this day? It's because they're still making a profit out of it due to the people that continuously buy gil. At least this way SE can pocket the cash themselves instead of it going to a third party.