Well then please by all means in all your infinite greatness, would you mind posting how? We've gotten to having more than enough time left to kill Batraal with some left over but nowhere near 15+ minutes extra.



Well then please by all means in all your infinite greatness, would you mind posting how? We've gotten to having more than enough time left to kill Batraal with some left over but nowhere near 15+ minutes extra.
if you run by every mob, only getting chests, you should always make it to ogre with 49~50min on the clock. you should be ending the fight in like 6~10 min max (if you cant do this idk what to tell you). after ogre, kill everything you see except the guards in the captain's quarters (kill only the drakes and w/e adds you get in the room with the drakes so you get 4 chests on batraal) → you should now be at batraal with like 25~30 min to spare and the fight takes less than 10. we did a run with almost 30 min left on the clock cuz no one died on the way or got hit by the Soulgazer on the way to batraal.
edit: almost forgot. you're bad :x maybe PUG only is why you can't do it
inb4 butthurt comments from you



Now what kind of a child would that make me? No butthurt, thanks for posting. You know this is exactly what this thread is fighting against though, right?if you run by every mob, only getting chests, you should always make it to ogre with 49~50min on the clock. you should be ending the fight in like 6~10 min max (if you cant do this idk what to tell you). after ogre, kill everything you see except the guards in the captain's quarters (kill only the drakes and w/e adds you get in the room with the drakes so you get 4 chests on batraal) → you should now be at batraal with like 25~30 min to spare and the fight takes less than 10. we did a run with almost 30 min left on the clock cuz no one died on the way or got hit by the Soulgazer on the way to batraal.
edit: almost forgot. you're bad :x maybe PUG only is why you can't do it
inb4 butthurt comments from you
Also I'm not really sure what you mean by bringing up me as a Pugilist. I mean I guess I'm no Archer but I make it work. Almost never die in there despite being close range.
Last edited by Arcell; 07-29-2011 at 09:00 PM.


PUG = Pick Up GroupNow what kind of a child would that make me? No butthurt, thanks for posting. You know this is exactly what this thread is fighting against though, right?
Also I'm not really sure what you mean by bringing up me as a Pugilist. I mean I guess I'm no Archer but I make it work. Almost never die in there despite being close range.
This is what happens when you don't even know the correct abbreviation for your armory class.



Numerous people both on these forums, other forums and in game refer to Pugilist as Pug and seeing as my only 50 is Pugilist well... If that's the point he was referring to actually I group with my LS, we've always got enough people on to run it. We're getting better as we go but clearly we've got some fine tuning to do on the time, getting closer each run though.
I'm not going to argue what the official abbreviation is, most people just say Pug. Say/type/think, it's just what happens.


There is no argument.Numerous people both on these forums, other forums and in game refer to Pugilist as Pug and seeing as my only 50 is Pugilist well... If that's the point he was referring to actually I group with my LS, we've always got enough people on to run it. We're getting better as we go but clearly we've got some fine tuning to do on the time, getting closer each run though.
I'm not going to argue what the official abbreviation is, most people just say Pug. Say/type/think, it's just what happens.
Pugilist = PGL, don't like it? Tell SE to change it. I imagine the reason Pugilist was not abbreviated as PUG in the first place is because of the confusion that you displayed previously since PUG is a common abbreviation for pick up group.
It's the same thing that was prevalent in FFXI for the first year or two. People stopped referring to Paladins as "PAL" and Black Mages as "BLK" eventually. I assume the same will happen in this game with PGL, GLA and whatever else.



You're right there is no argument. PGL is the official abbreviation. I personally don't give half a damn what the official abbreviation is though because people commonly refer to Pugilist as Pug, causing this obvious confusion. Again, not even talking about the official abbreviation, I'm talking about what people commonly refer to Pugilist as. Doesn't matter if it's wrong or right, that's what people do. And again as my only 50 is Pugilist it can cause confusion.There is no argument.
Pugilist = PGL, don't like it? Tell SE to change it. I imagine the reason Pugilist was not abbreviated as PUG in the first place is because of the confusion that you displayed previously since PUG is a common abbreviation for pick up group.
It's the same thing that was prevalent in FFXI for the first year or two. People stopped referring to Paladins as "PAL" and Black Mages as "BLK" eventually. I assume the same will happen in this game with PGL, GLA and whatever else.
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