SE you put a really bad taste in my mouth every single patch

[FateAudax]

It's a personal achievement, just like getting all your BiS gear is a personal achievement.

So it's not gating any real progression or achievement. Made it sounds like the cash shop is gating everyone from a game feature achievement.

[Taliph]

So it's not gating any real progression or achievement. Made it sounds like the cash shop is gating everyone from a game feature achievement.

So, just because it doesn't give you some points in an arbitrary list of "achievements" it suddenly isn't a real achievement?

[FateAudax]

So, just because it doesn't give you some points in an arbitrary list of "achievements" it suddenly isn't a real achievement?

It's not gating any game content or feature.

[Sinsain]

Are those items you mentioned to be in the cash shop counted towards the achievement?

So it's not gating any real progression or achievement. Made it sounds like the cash shop is gating everyone from a game feature achievement.

How at all did my post elude to people being locked from an achievement? I clearly stated that people play the game for that content, only saying that there are gearsets that exist for achievements. That was merely to validate a point that it is content for players.

to simplify, People like collecting full sets of gear for the look. They want to take advantage of the glamour system. Now to take full advantage of that system, I need to pay extra. That could be someones sole reason for playing this game and now they are forced to pay for the full experience.

Make sense?

[FateAudax]

How at all did my post elude to people being locked from an achievement? I clearly stated that people play the game for that content, only saying that there are gearsets that exist for achievements. That was merely to validate a point that it is content for players.

to simplify, People like collecting full sets of gear for the look. They want to take advantage of the glamour system. Now to take full advantage of that system, I need to pay extra. That could be someones sole reason for playing this game and now they are forced to pay for the full experience.

Make sense?

I would like to collect the whole collection of winter clothing from Zara, but damn I have to pay for it? What sorcery is this?? Better round up some people and start a protest cause I paid like tons of taxes to this country man.

[Sinsain]

I would like to collect the whole collection of winter clothing from Zara, but damn I have to pay for it? What sorcery is this?? Better round up some people and start a protest cause I paid like tons of taxes to this country man.

This response means what? How is this contributing to the point I stated?

So I'm only allowed to give positive feedback otherwise I get responded to with whatever the above is?

Constructive response plz

[FateAudax]

This response means what? How is this contributing to the point I stated?

So I'm only allowed to give positive feedback otherwise I get responded to with whatever the above is?

Constructive response plz

Okay, let me break things down for you.
- SE placed optional vanity items behind cash shop.
- Players unhappy because they deem those items as personal achievement ("omg, I must have that but I am unwilling to pay more").
- Proceed to flood General Discussion forum with many QQ threads.
- General Discussion reduced to a complain/protest subforum rather than a discussion forum (people demanding answers from Devs).

Clear enough?

[Sinsain]

Okay, let me break things down for you.
- SE placed optional vanity items behind cash shop.
- Players unhappy because they deem those items as personal achievement ("omg, I must have that but I am unwilling to pay more").
- Proceed to flood General Discussion forum with many QQ threads.
- General Discussion reduced to a complain/protest subforum rather than a discussion forum (people demanding answers from Devs).

Clear enough?

Thats much clearer than whatever that last post was, But again they are deemed as content because they are content that is important to people playing this game (thats what they play with when they log in). People are going to keep making these threads because they want their opinion to be heard. The biggest arguement at the moment is that of vanity not being content, and this wedding content being behind the paywall. Just because feedback isn't positive doesn't mean it should be instantly shot down.

[Taliph]

Okay, let me break things down for you.
- SE placed optional vanity items behind cash shop.
- Players unhappy because they deem those items as personal achievement ("omg, I must have that but I am unwilling to pay more").
- Proceed to flood General Discussion forum with many QQ threads.
- General Discussion reduced to a complain/protest subforum rather than a discussion forum (people demanding answers from Devs).

Clear enough?

Customers make complaints, that's what the forums are for... Trolling them doesn't help, what he quoted was nothing but ad homim trolling.