SE you put a really bad taste in my mouth every single patch

[FateAudax]

How at all did my post elude to people being locked from an achievement? I clearly stated that people play the game for that content, only saying that there are gearsets that exist for achievements. That was merely to validate a point that it is content for players.

to simplify, People like collecting full sets of gear for the look. They want to take advantage of the glamour system. Now to take full advantage of that system, I need to pay extra. That could be someones sole reason for playing this game and now they are forced to pay for the full experience.

Make sense?

I would like to collect the whole collection of winter clothing from Zara, but damn I have to pay for it? What sorcery is this?? Better round up some people and start a protest cause I paid like tons of taxes to this country man.

[Kiroh]

I guess Square can sell coil lockout removals as an "optional" service because, hey, it's in the TOS. And we can't complain because we agreed to it.

Sure, and you're not gating the content behind the cash shop because you can still do coil, just without the chance of loot after the first weekly clear!

[Tupsi]

There should be some record of it somewhere, in case you are unaware of how the internet works. And if it can't be found there is probably a very good reason for that.

It's because anything relating to XIV 1.0 they want to separate from ARR (which is why you can't even upload 1.x stuff to youtube anymore) because they don't want to confuse people.

http://www.develop-online.net/news/f...s-wada/0105940

So if you want PDFs relating to XIV 1.0, that's going to be harder to find now that ARR is the focus version.

[Kiroh]

you can go ahead and find it, I am not good to find stuff or google thing, I cannot even find the old picture of how airship look in game to show to other ppl either (had been show back in 1.0)

Well it's a good thing I didn't ask you then! =D

It's because anything relating to XIV 1.0 they want to separate from ARR (which is why you can't even upload 1.x stuff to youtube anymore) because they don't want to confuse people.

http://www.develop-online.net/news/f...s-wada/0105940

So if you want PDFs relating to XIV 1.0, that's going to be harder to find now that ARR is the focus version.

Thank you, I had not seen this before.

Well this is good clarification for anyone who thinks this isn't going to get worse. It is only going to get worse, and they plan specifically on developing items just for the cash shop that can't be obtained without paying. The president of the company saying they need to create more items specifically to be sold in the cash shop. There you have it folks.

See how easy it is when you ask instead of snip at people Schnei?

[Sinsain]

I would like to collect the whole collection of winter clothing from Zara, but damn I have to pay for it? What sorcery is this?? Better round up some people and start a protest cause I paid like tons of taxes to this country man.

This response means what? How is this contributing to the point I stated?

So I'm only allowed to give positive feedback otherwise I get responded to with whatever the above is?

Constructive response plz

[FateAudax]

This response means what? How is this contributing to the point I stated?

So I'm only allowed to give positive feedback otherwise I get responded to with whatever the above is?

Constructive response plz

Okay, let me break things down for you.
- SE placed optional vanity items behind cash shop.
- Players unhappy because they deem those items as personal achievement ("omg, I must have that but I am unwilling to pay more").
- Proceed to flood General Discussion forum with many QQ threads.
- General Discussion reduced to a complain/protest subforum rather than a discussion forum (people demanding answers from Devs).

Clear enough?

[Sinsain]

Okay, let me break things down for you.
- SE placed optional vanity items behind cash shop.
- Players unhappy because they deem those items as personal achievement ("omg, I must have that but I am unwilling to pay more").
- Proceed to flood General Discussion forum with many QQ threads.
- General Discussion reduced to a complain/protest subforum rather than a discussion forum (people demanding answers from Devs).

Clear enough?

Thats much clearer than whatever that last post was, But again they are deemed as content because they are content that is important to people playing this game (thats what they play with when they log in). People are going to keep making these threads because they want their opinion to be heard. The biggest arguement at the moment is that of vanity not being content, and this wedding content being behind the paywall. Just because feedback isn't positive doesn't mean it should be instantly shot down.

[Taliph]

Okay, let me break things down for you.
- SE placed optional vanity items behind cash shop.
- Players unhappy because they deem those items as personal achievement ("omg, I must have that but I am unwilling to pay more").
- Proceed to flood General Discussion forum with many QQ threads.
- General Discussion reduced to a complain/protest subforum rather than a discussion forum (people demanding answers from Devs).

Clear enough?

Customers make complaints, that's what the forums are for... Trolling them doesn't help, what he quoted was nothing but ad homim trolling.

[Oghmanyte]

Meaning leveling, gear, exp, crafting are all things you aren't forced to participate in so why not add them to the cash shop too? You're not forced into anything, and everything you do in this game is optional because the game itself is optional so trying to argue what doesn't affect you or what you aren't interested in is fine in the cash shop is stupid. If that's the case then everything belongs in the cash shop, and make no mistake it will end up there eventually too.

Your use of strawman arguments is only exceeded by Fox News.

[Adrian74]

Sad thing is for those of us who hate the cash shop, all it takes is 1 person to splurge in the cash shop. It's going nowhere and more and more will be added. Please look forward to it. Weddings and Dyes are just the beginning.

Indeed, if we are 75% of database, but the other 25% wants cash shop stuff... Be sure they'll pay attention to that 25%.