Artisan Offhand Meld Discussion.

[Espritduo]

I can't even count how many times having an extra 3 CP has saved me from total crafting destruction at the end of a synth, both before 4-stars and now. It's absolutely vital on your offhand as far as I'm concerned.

So, Control IV, Craft III x3 and CP III on all 8 offhands for me, and I have never regretted it once. If I wasn't impatient, I might have waited until I got my artisan's gear so I didn't need that Control IV to hit caps, but eh. I'd have been using food and FC buffs to hit 4-star caps for a month if I went that way. Nah.

[MeridaQ]

I meld mine 4 control + 6 craft + 5 craft + 5 craft. That leaves with full melds on artisan left side and supra to hit 4 stars.

[Alistaire]

Why 3 control? It's not needed on offhand.

Neither is the craftmanship. And the extra craftmanship doesn't change the rotation.

But, if you do 15 craft, 3 control and 3 CP (if you're not doing the 3 CP that's bad), then you can do 4-star stuff with just the i70 tool and shark fin soup, or still with bouillabaisse and just the craftmanship fc buff. Good for stuff you don't need to HQ or that you don't depend on HQ'ing, like crp stuff.

[scarebearz]

Neither is the craftmanship. And the extra craftmanship doesn't change the rotation.

Actually it does.

[Rath]

I do some crafts that leave me 3 progress from finishing on my weaver, as I melded it before making my artisans and it has control on the offhand. My other offhands were melded after and do not have any control melded, but they do have the 3 cp. They allow me to finish 1 progress action sooner as a result.

[xPeAcEx]

I did some more 4 star crafts earlier today and that extra 3 cp was sometimes needed and sometimes wasn't. I am considering melding now as

Control +4
Craft +6
Craft +5
Craft +5/4
CP +3

Just because while having 4 more control would be nice, that 3 cp could end up saving me :P

This is assuming, you have max melded artisan gear. The reason i added control is because as inner quiet stacks, it becomes bigger but since i can't eliminate a step by adding more craftmanship, i didn't see a reason not to add control. Unless someone knows something i don't :P

[dspguy]

6 Craft - 5 Craft - 5 Craft - 5 Craft - 3 CP, on all 8.

If you have the supra, do this. If you do not have the supra, you'll need to put at least 4 control on there and probably the new artisan gear to do 4-star with Craftsmanship food. To be honest, I've found the Supra to be unnecessary. After I started turning a profit, it just seemed natural to upgrade to the supra. My HQ rate was near 100 before. The supra didn't change much. You can absorb more failure the supra and extra CP, but ultimately, if your RS/HT fail, no amount of CP/control is going to save the synth.

[xPeAcEx]

I am seeing a lot of people say that they melded all craftmanship, which is fine but here is my question. Why? Where did you save that extra step?

You have supra, all artisan set with everything melded to the max. You made your off hand +15 craftmanship and +3cp.

Your choice for your last meld was a +6 craftmanship or a +4 control. Where/in which craft did that 6 extra craftmanship save you a step or saved you cp in some way or form? Shark fin soup saves you a step, does the shark fin + the extra 6 craftmanship save you an additional step to the one you already saved? I am just trying to understand the choice people made in their melds so that i can finish mine as well Personally i am waiting until 2.45 before fully melding my remaining offhands to see if we are getting a new piece of body gear.

Edit because no matter how hard i try.

4* 451:
pbp, ing2, rs, rs
cs at end to finish
meaning we have 366 usable cp (398-32)

4* 518:
pbp, rs, rs
just a standard synth.
meaning we have 358 usable cp (373-15)

As far as i know, at best i can eliminate a step in a 3 star using a shark fin soup to get it to complete in 3 ing2 + RS + RS and finish with CS2 alone compared to 4 steps without the soup. So i go back to the question of what does that 6 craftmanship over the 4 control give as a benefit?

[StouterTaru]

I am seeing a lot of people say that they melded all craftmanship, which is fine but here is my question. Why? Where did you save that extra step?

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4* 451:
pbp, ing2, rs, rs
cs at end to finish
meaning we have 366 usable cp (398-32)

At around 455 craftsmanship you can drop the INGII from that.

[xPeAcEx]

At around 455 craftsmanship you can drop the INGII from that.

No! That's just misinformation. Without the Ingenuity 2, you don't get enough progress to finish it in 4 steps. If you do, provide your stats and progress per step if you think you do please.