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    Quote Originally Posted by Donjo View Post
    This is actually one of the worst uses of macro a SCH can perform. The most flexible thing a SCH can do is apply a heal of acceptable potency to two people at once. This is what makes their lack of AOE healing potency compared to WHM okay! This macro takes a class famous for their flexibility and greatly lessens it. Letting Eos do her own thing while you heal the Tank is often the same as letting her get the rest of the party up whenever damage hits them. Besides, she tends to focus on party members with less health unless she's the one with less health, so a healthy rest-of-party will end up getting the Tank embraced anyway.




    Yep, same rules as players, but the point below helps with that I think. This problem does only affect Embrace, however. The stay command will always allow you to cancel an Embrace and then immediately use a cooldown.



    I believe Eos follows the same concepts of being able to queue up a GCD skill slightly by hitting it up to a second before it's actually available to ensure it's used the millisecond it becomes so. Either way, if you really think X person should be healed with Embrace next, Eos will agree with you in most situations. She's not quite that dumb



    One, every heal helps. Eos will never overheal unless some other heal hits her intended target during an Embrace cast. Two, Eos healing randoms is a saving grace more in 4 mans or double scholar action than it is in a SCH/WHM combo.
    While I agree with you that it's amazing to be able to heal two targets the same time, the macro still helps. Ie. your raid just took aoe damage and one of the dps is quite low - Eos will focus her attention to him/her. In coil, where your groups most likely won't get more damage but the tank is about to get another big hit you really want here to focus on the MT as well as your own heals, too. Medica II or even Eos on her own will patch up the rest of the raid after the big hit on the tank.

    I do have Macros where I do have embrace grouped up with my heals, even though I don't use them by default.
    It does however leave me with more options:

    Heal two targets manually (embrace macro and my normal heals)
    Force here to heal the target together with me (Embrace macroed together with stay and any of my heals)
    Let her heal up others and me patching up the MT (let her do her own thing and I just use my heals normally)

    I find it adds a lot of additional options to have an embrace/adlo or embrace/physick macro just for certain situations. Obviously I have her on Obey at all times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyomih View Post
    While I agree with you that it's amazing to be able to heal two targets the same time, the macro still helps. Ie. your raid just took aoe damage and one of the dps is quite low - Eos will focus her attention to him/her. In coil, where your groups most likely won't get more damage but the tank is about to get another big hit you really want here to focus on the MT as well as your own heals, too. Medica II or even Eos on her own will patch up the rest of the raid after the big hit on the tank.

    I do have Macros where I do have embrace grouped up with my heals, even though I don't use them by default.
    It does however leave me with more options:

    Heal two targets manually (embrace macro and my normal heals)
    Force here to heal the target together with me (Embrace macroed together with stay and any of my heals)
    Let her heal up others and me patching up the MT (let her do her own thing and I just use my heals normally)

    I find it adds a lot of additional options to have an embrace/adlo or embrace/physick macro just for certain situations. Obviously I have her on Obey at all times.
    Okay, then allow me to amend the statement slightly to make my stance clearer. It's a bad idea to completely replace your regular Physick with a Physick + Embrace macro. I'm personally just fine with the action of beginning a Physick cast and ordering Eos to Embrace the same target while I'm casting, but I understand why some people might keep both situations on their bar at once.

    Oh, and yes. Obey at all times. You won't want her blowing those very useful cooldowns at the beginning of the pull
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