Medica II abuse needs to stop

[Lyrinn]

This is a trend I've been seeing slowly pick up since around 2.2/2.3 or so but it's just outright dumb now. I swear 80+% of pug WHMs I see in roulettes and dungeons pre-cast Medica II or blow it as the tank is pulling, and then of course the tanks get blamed for not being able to hold hate. I don't know if it's because the changes to tank enmity spoiled this "new" generation of WHMs but it needs to stop. Pre-casting Medica II literally does nothing except generate ridiculous amounts of hate from overhealing, particularly if you stoneskinned everyone, and it makes life miserable for both the tanks and melee DPS. If you want to use a spell before a pull and look pretty, SCH is right next door.

[Yumi_umi]

I wear tank gear so my medicas aren't too op. Also so what if enemies punch me for a few seconds i'll just stoneskin my self -> swiftcast stoneskin to mitigate emnity while medica 2 ticks and heals me. Tank should be able to grab hate by then if not, i question thee!
If it isn't coil then probs won't be as big of a deal to ppl.
Also cuz i think its from all this high geared ppl flooding into dungeons.

[Cynfael]

I wear tank gear so my medicas aren't too op. Also so what if enemies punch me for a few seconds i'll just stoneskin my self -> swiftcast stoneskin to mitigate emnity while medica 2 ticks and heals me. Tank should be able to grab hate by then if not, i question thee!
If it isn't coil then probs won't be as big of a deal to ppl.
Also cuz i think its from all this high geared ppl flooding into dungeons.

You lost me at "tank gear."

Newbie WHMs need to learn that Medica II is not to be used like Succor. I think the habit of casting HoTs as if they were buffers is something players learn in other games and expect to work similarly here.

[alphagprime]

You lost me at "tank gear."

Newbie WHMs need to learn that Medica II is not to be used like Succor. I think the habit of casting HoTs as if they were buffers is something players learn in other games and expect to work similarly here.

I think this is the issue, the WHM see SCH pre-cast Succor and say to themselves, "Hey...I can do that too!" except it doesn't work the same. In fact, a funny story here, a friend of mine was running ST for his first time with me. Since he was a WHM I queue'd as my SCH who was ilvl 106 to his WHM ilvl 80 something so that I could make his time less painful. He noticed I was pre-casting Succor on boss fights and things like that and without thinking mimic'd me with Medica 2 and pulled aggro on the trash pulls and died! It was hilarious! I later asked him why he did that and he said, "I just saw you doing it and didn't think a thing of it until I had a mouth full of mobs and was dead on the floor."

So yeah...

[RogueJawa]

As a noob who doesn't have Medica II yet what's the supposed point behind precasting Medica II? So far I haven't felt a need to do any precasting beyond putting Stoneskin on my tank.

[KokoGigiyako]

As a noob who doesn't have Medica II yet what's the supposed point behind precasting Medica II? So far I haven't felt a need to do any precasting beyond putting Stoneskin on my tank.

There is no point in precasting it at all, but it's an awesome skill (when timed properly) that will save you tons of MP and GCD's as you progress towards the endgame content. You'll see it by yourslef

[warren-ragnarok]

I wear tank gear so my medicas aren't too op. Also so what if enemies punch me for a few seconds i'll just stoneskin my self -> swiftcast stoneskin to mitigate emnity while medica 2 ticks and heals me. Tank should be able to grab hate by then if not, i question thee!
If it isn't coil then probs won't be as big of a deal to ppl.
Also cuz i think its from all this high geared ppl flooding into dungeons.

I would totally let you tank that group of mobs, and laugh as you die.

[Martin_Arcainess]

I've never encountered this problem much mainly because I play with the Wife who is a WHM and I tend to hold aggro on the word go but I can see how this would be a problem for Tanks who's ilv is lower the then WHM doing the Medica II and do agree it's kinda a waste considering the Spell is more party AOE focused and abit of MP to cost and it's mostly Tanks that take damage 1st while the DPS are at risk later in the fight. So I do agree a Medica II at the beginning seems to be a bit wasteful.

Saying that though if I'm with a group in Ifrit HM and the Tank is well geared I'll cast Medica II/ Regen on him so I can DPS more but 8/10 I won't start with it.

[Tranquil]

Agreed, OP. Seen this more and more the past two months or so as well. It's idiotic and does nothing for the party - a Medica II is not Succor.

[Lyrinn]

I wear tank gear so my medicas aren't too op. Also so what if enemies punch me for a few seconds i'll just stoneskin my self -> swiftcast stoneskin to mitigate emnity while medica 2 ticks and heals me. Tank should be able to grab hate by then if not, i question thee!
If it isn't coil then probs won't be as big of a deal to ppl.
Also cuz i think its from all this high geared ppl flooding into dungeons.

It's not a matter of being able to survive and let the situation rectify itself. There are literally zero - Z. E. R. O. - reasons to pre-cast a Medica II or use during a pull. Please, by all means, do come up with a valid reason. I would love to hear it.