My Eos issue..

[Suggestion]

Eos likes to use her Embrace (yes I know its an auto skill) whenever she wants. This irritates me cause I control her manually. With a 3 second recast she shouldn't cast it whenever. This can be helpful for people new to SCH, or the pet system. But I was a SMN first. I already have plenty of practice controlling my pets manually. By no means am I a perfect SMN.

Why would this bother anyone?
A. You use the macro Embrace & Physick.

B. You use Embrace only to find out that Eos already cast it 1.1 seconds earlier. It takes 2 secs to cast and 5 total from cast to recast to cast it again. (tongue tied)

C. Correct me if im wrong, It seems if Eos casts Embrace on a player you literally have to spam it to make sure she targets your target you want to heal next. (im sorry if that didn't make sense)

D. Your focusing tank heals and she heals randoms. As I understand it, WHM is more suited to heal everyone else and SCH are suited to focus the tanks. Bless you WHM, bless you.

My solution, Let us be able to turn off Eos auto attack. Its just bleh when I use her heal and it doesn't take effect or it takes effect 4 secs later >.<

Not at all am I an exceptional SCH. I'm working on it, but this seemed an obvious set back to SCH.

There have been great points made down below about said subject, but this has brought to light another possible soulution to the Eos auto Embrace question. What if we just match Embrace cast and recast time to Physick? Do you think that's to overpowered?

From reading both sides, the conclusion I've come to is this. While more options are always nice, the option to turn of auto attacks on pet summons is unnecessary. In the case of Eos and Selines "Embrace" it would not affect healing ability at all even with complicated and elaborate macros. One of ways i see this option being useful if implemented is if "Embrace" matched the cast and recast times of "Physick" and or "Cure" skill. Then i would see controlling "Embrace" manually to be somewhat beneficial to veteran SCHs.

Thanks for the views and posting your opinions below.

though that doesn't give you an excuse to not control your pet manually :P

[Eggnook24]

I disagree. I rely on Eos when in CS to DPS. And if I'm doing a cast that isn't a heal, I know she can top off someone under 80% without worrying a Dragoon might eat dirt.

[Suggestion]

I disagree. I rely on Eos when in CS to DPS. And if I'm doing a cast that isn't a heal, I know she can top off someone under 80% without worrying a Dragoon might eat dirt.

And you could continue to rely on it, this thread is to hope for an option to turn auto Embrace off. As i don't want to rely on Eos, I want her at my beck and call.

[Kabzy]

I completely agree that we should at least be given the option to disable all pet auto-actions, however I don't completely agree that it's a setback to Scholars.

As someone who's played as a Scholar for a very long time now, I definitely have never had issues with Eos not healing the tank. When I used macros,and even now that I use none, I always manage to keep Eos focused on my target without fail. I feel like the Fairies only ever heal other targets when you're not completely focused on your own target. So while I don't find the healing aspect annoying, I will agree that the auto-attacking can be a huge hindrance when you're trying to use other fairy abilities. While a few seconds delay on buffs may not seem like a huge deal, it's still contributing to lower efficiency that could be diminished should we have total command over our pets.

Also Eggnook, yeah it's nice to have them healing for you while you DPS, but I find this can only really be applied to the low level dungeons.

[Suggestion]

I completely agree that we should at least be given the option to disable all pet auto-actions, however I don't completely agree that it's a setback to Scholars.

I chose poorly with the word setback.. I should have said an annoying hindrance. And i completely agree with you that eos healing while you dps only helps in the low level content.

[Eggnook24]

I understand now, you just want more options. And yeah, I haven't done raids yet, my experience has been outside of BCoB, so maybe the delay in embracing target hasn't been a huge deal for me yet. But yeah, I'm totally down for more control as an option, just don't take away the AI completely.

[Kabzy]

I agree again. In fact I think Scholar is one of those jobs where people can really play it effectively in so many unique ways, so having more options will only enhance the diversity of the job.

[Velox]

While the current AI limitation is a set-back, from my understanding, it is a necessary set-back. Currently Physick + Embrace has a higher combined heal potency than Cure II, for half the MP cost. Being able to fine-tune Embrace would require Cure II's MP cost to be either cut significantly or the overall potency to be buffed significantly to keep it up-to-par. Part of the reason why it's balanced now is BECAUSE the fairy can't be controlled 100% of the time. The room SE gave for error is what helps keep things balanced.

[Suggestion]

While the current AI limitation is a set-back, from my understanding, it is a necessary set-back. Currently Physick + Embrace has a higher combined heal potency than Cure II, for half the MP cost. Being able to fine-tune Embrace would require Cure II's MP cost to be either cut significantly or the overall potency to be buffed significantly to keep it up-to-par. Part of the reason why it's balanced now is BECAUSE the fairy can't be controlled 100% of the time. The room SE gave for error is what helps keep things balanced.

I think that is quite on purpose, because they wanted WHM, from looking at the skill set to be an aoe healer and i think its encouraged from looking at the skills. While on the other hand SCH has one aoe heal and its not very good at all and has a high mp cost. Which is why our direct target heals are more efficient.And honestly our target heal physick is the same as WHM physick but we have a pet and they even have one aoe heal.

Single target healing vs. Group healing id say that's on the nail.

[Kabzy]

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I don't think this is quite what the OP is asking. From your post it almost seems like you're making out we want the Fairy's Embrace to have the same properties as Physick so we can perfectly cast them simultaneously every time. That's not the case as all we want for both pet classes is to be able to control them 100%, and this wouldn't be a huge change for the jobs. The reason I say this is because when you focus on tank healing, your Fairy will always heal the same target as you anyway, if you macro or command it to. So the combined potency being higher than Cure II is already a thing, it's not something new that would come from 100% control. And it's not something I believe a WHM needs to be adjusted to, SCHs are better at single target healing after all. This is particularly why I only mentioned 100% control being great to prevent delays to Fairy buffs, as I believe it'll make no difference to the actual overall healing potency.