Eternal Bond - Standard Plan and Gold Plan

[FateAudax]

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Seriously, you're still trying to argue your way out of the ToS which you agreed to? It was your mistake for not reading the ToS, accepting it and went ahead paying for the subscription. Then now you're complaining on the forum for what you have agreed to. Like seriously?

Please. Go. Read. The. Freaking. Terms. Of. Service. Everything was written in Black and White. You agreed to it.

[Kaiyoko]

Summery of the OF when it comes to housing, cash shop, and pretty much everything SE creates....

Anything you pay REAL $$ for: "OMG PAY 2 WIN, SE TRYING TO GOUGE US FOR ALL OUR MONEY!" "LEGACY SCUMBAGS DID THIS TO US AND THEIR EXTRA RETAINERS!" "YOU'RE RUINING MY IMMERSION!"

Anything you pay large sums of gil for: "OMG SE ONLY CARES ABOUT THE 1%, LEGACY SCUMBAGS WITH GIL, AND RMT!"

Something free for everyone: "OMG I'M NOT A SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE SE." "THIS IS SUPPOSE TO BE SPECIAL FOR ONLY ME AND MY SIGNIFICANT OTHER!"

You guys always find a way to be upset ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[silentwindfr]

exept that this part of the terms was changed right before of the add of the retainer, and more important we had some promise to not see this sort of stuff.

other point what is the interest to pay a subs every month if at the end we need to pass by the cash shop for get acces to some content?
the subs allows you to have acces to the whole game, it's too in the terms of usage, you get acces to the the software and all the content added or corrected later.

finally, and i will use an image quite violent... slavery was too legal and part of the laws, it don't change the fact it was despicable as manner to act. (it's not at the same level, but the principe behind it's the same)
for make it simple, they can add option and addon, it's legal and part of the terms, it don't change the fact it's despicable as change in the way the game was until the 2.4. (actually did begin with the 2.2)

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what is amazing it's how people give quite interesting argument and the people against simply don't give any good argument i still wait to see one that is revelant of why do this sort of add?

because that the point, why they need to make us double charge for a content developped with the subs and advertised for long (since before the release of ARR)?

because at all the people saying they need more cash for increase the quality of the game, i will answer, they had get tons of cash, sadly it was not used in FF14 most of it! a lot of cash was used for other game than FF14. that why we still get bad server!

and by the way, it was proved (by SE himself) that the game did get a loooot of profit and had a large impact on the society recently. then why now ask us to pay stuff in the cash shop, outside the fact to be greedy and want to get more cash.

honestly if the cash was really for the game, i will say ok, why not. but soo far i haven't seen anything going in this sense.

[NarikoStar]

exept that this part of the terms was changed right before of the add of the retainer, and more important we had some promise to not see this sort of stuff.

u_u Accept this has been in the ToS since the beginning (even in 1.0 mind you)

11.8 Changes to this User Agreement. Square Enix reserves the right, at its sole discretion, to change, modify, add to, supplement or delete any of the terms and conditions of this User Agreement or the way that the Game operates at any time. Square Enix will notify you of such changes in one of the following ways at its sole discretion: through a patch, email, postal mail, website posting, pop-up screen or in-game notice. If you do not agree to any such change or modification, you may terminate this User Agreement by uninstalling the Licensed Software and destroying your copy(ies). Your continued use of the Game following any revision to this User Agreement will demonstrate your full acceptance of any and all such changes.

Their game, their rules. Can do what they want.

I've been lurking for quite a while in this thread, and I must say it's reached new highs. lol.

I for one, will go on the lesser side of the fence and say I'm actually pleased to see a premium wedding service added to the game which I can buy with real $$$. I think people have different ways of looking at it when it comes to what they are willing to spend and what they /want/ to spend and of course how people budget their RL funds. I work my job so I can spend extra money on whatever SE wants to throw at me (and yes, if I want it bad enough I will spend a good sum of money on it- even if that means over $100+). While it might be a minority, I'm sure there are others like myself willing to drop a decent amount on vanity & cash shop- and if SE wants to take advantage of that, by all means be my guest. I work in the visual effects industry now, and before in the gaming industry- if they feel they can make a profit, a company most certainly will. Plus, most the time I'm more than happy to pay extra to support a game and company I love. Long as I don't see high end game raiding items in the cash shop- I'm a happy cat.

So thank you SE, I fully support your cash shop and your premium wedding implementation.

[FateAudax]

exept that this part of the terms was changed right before of the add of the retainer, and more important we had some promise to not see this sort of stuff.

If you're playing the game now it means you accepted the latest version of ToS. However, as mentioned by the kind legacy (I assume) poster below. It was even in 1.0.

u_u Accept this has been in the ToS since the beginning (even in 1.0 mind you)

For players who are currently playing the game/have access to the game and is complaining about paying for additional optional features (I can't stress how many times I have mentioned that it is optional). You accepted the latest Terms of Service and agreed to it. This thread is actually totally pointless by this fact alone because it has already been clearly defined in the ToS which you all have accepted.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

People are surprised that a TOS gets changed? This happens all the time with many online games (or even just games getting downloaded in general).

[EpioneRayne]

People act like this is the ONLY mmorpg that has a cash shop that sells mounts, minions, and other things not content related in terms of raiding.

Look at WoW... there is a cash shop where you can buy mounts, pets and all types of things as long as it is not gear that can be used in progression. Many other mmos do the same thing as well. As long as it does not harm progression and is strictly vanity it usually happens.

They offer a free version. I can understand people getting mad if there was only one option, but there is not. There is two options, if YOU REALLY WANT the other one just pay for it and split it with whoever you are marrying and get all the stuff, but if not then just get the regular.

[Roris]

Maybe if I still keep defending my favorite game and company on their own turf I'll be rewarded for it!

[MilesSaintboroguh]

And people wonder why discussions go nowhere.

[Laerune]

I understand that alot of players do not like the Gold Plan and I agree with you guys. But this is their game and they are not forcing us to us spend money on the Gold Plan. If you want a virtual marriage, then you can do that, if you want the extra stuff, you need to pay money. Aslong as the Cash Shop users bring in alot of money for SE, you can expect this to continue with different features. Personaly I have mixed feelings about the Cash Shop, sometimes I buy the items and other times I disagree with what they are selling. Aslong as it is mounts, minions and outfits, then I dont mind. But the moment they put in hairstyles and things like jobs, colours etc. this is when I start to complain on the forum.

If you dont want to support the Gold Plan, then dont buy them. The truth is majority of the players that I know who complained about the Sleipnir mount, ended up buying them in the end. Aslong as players complain on the forum, but buy the items, you will only send SE a message that you agree with their business practice.