Eternal Bond - Standard Plan and Gold Plan

[Roris]

Good thing we don't owe SE our money either. Company entitlement at its peak.

[FateAudax]

Good thing we don't owe SE our money either. Company entitlement at its peak.

Which is why you have the option of not paying for the extra optional feature

[Roris]

Which is why you have the option of not paying for the extra optional feature

Good, then they won't have my extra money .

[FateAudax]

Good, then they won't have my extra money .

If only the other complainers were as reasonable as you

[Roris]

If only the other complainers were as reasonable as you

They are if you actually bothered to read the thread and the conclusion that they can keep charging for stuff as long as they announce it well in advance, unlike they've done so so far announcing their monetization plans a week before the implemented feature is added, and after that feature had been hyped for over a year with no mention at all that part of that advertised feature would be monetized upon. Which is, you know, the main concern for a lot of people.

[TurnBased]

It's the principle.

The game operates on a Pay to Play scheme. For $13-$15 a month, I expect to be able to experience all that the game has to offer. P2P was actually made the game appealing to me because I knew I wouldn't have to deal with Pay to Win or Cash Shops. Yes, I am entitled because I paid money for it.

That said, I am reserving my judgement until it has been confirmed that SE will be charging real money for the Gold Plan. For all we know, the Gold Plan may cost us gil,which is really how it is supposed to be.

[Zumi]

It's the principle.

The game operates on a Pay to Play scheme. For $13-$15 a month, I expect to be able to experience all that the game has to offer. P2P was actually made the game appealing to me because I knew I wouldn't have to deal with Pay to Win or Cash Shops. Yes, I am entitled because I paid money for it.

That said, I am reserving my judgement until it has been confirmed that SE will be charging real money for the Gold Plan. For all we know, the Gold Plan may cost us gil,which is really how it is supposed to be.

Legacy sub is only $7.99-9.99 maybe they wanted to make more money off us Legacy players.

[Taliph]

That said, I am reserving my judgement until it has been confirmed that SE will be charging real money for the Gold Plan. For all we know, the Gold Plan may cost us gil,which is really how it is supposed to be.

Every page... Confirmed in the live letter

[FateAudax]

It's the principle.

The game operates on a Pay to Play scheme. For $13-$15 a month, I expect to be able to experience all that the game has to offer. P2P was actually made the game appealing to me because I knew I wouldn't have to deal with Pay to Win or Cash Shops. Yes, I am entitled because I paid money for it.

Monthly subs are the rental for accessing their servers if you actually bothered to read the ToS. Under 4. BILLING PROCEDURES AND RECURRING TRANSACTIONS

"In order to access SQUARE ENIX's servers to play the Game, you must agree to a recurring subscription ("Subscription") with a minimum subscription term of 30 days, and pay a recurring subscription fee ("FFXIV Subscription Fee")"

Hmm... don't see the part where they said it includes whatever you feel that you're entitled to. Oh right, the link: http://support.na.square-enix.com/ru...2&tag=users_en

Oh look!! It is also highlights additional features!!
"Further, Square Enix may offer you the chance to purchase additional features for your FFXIV Service Account, which we call "Add-ons" or "Options." Add-ons may be subject to either additional recurring fees or one-time fees. A "Recurring Fee" is a fee that will be charged on a recurring basis until you terminate your subscription. A "One-Time Fee" is fee that is only charged once."

I guess this thread is the result of people not reading what they agreed to before they signed up and paid for the game


TL;DR: You paid subs to access their server to play the game, not for the additional features.

[silentwindfr]

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yeah, sure, let's make the last economic model fair become a milk cow.... dude you know that you simply tell them go rips more your player.
seriously, i dunno when you did begin the mmorpg.... and that the most big trouble a lot of the modern player are simply coming from the....free to play model and find normal to be overcharge for everything. here the point of the subs model was to make more fair community, the only stuff that can affect what you can or cannot do, it's yourself and your dedication... not the size of your wallet.

sorry i will be blunt and rude... but the cash shop is only a despicable way to simply get more cash... now i wonder if they make a game for money or if they make money for game.

i'm still waiting to see what it will be really and the reason behind the cash shop part (if they really do this) because... if them explanation are not good, you can be sure that some people will simply destroy them reputation and place them at the same level than some company like EA. indeed this company make tons of cash true, but they have the worst reputation around.

anyway, i will wait but i don't hope a lot from tomorrow patch note.
ps: by the way, we are at 24 hours of the patch and still no information on the coming feature? if i was paranoid i will say that they aren't really confident about this plan.