How to make tanking more rewarding?

[bideogames]

until they make tanking something other than a pseudo dps competition with the rest of your party no one is going to want to do it.

[Anarnee]

When I tank I enjoy the role for what it is. I am helping my team through and that alone is rewarding enough for me.

[Its_Elodie]

Showing how much damage a tank does or how much they mitigate isn't going to get people to want to start tanking dungeons. I don't main a tanking class, but I do side a WAR. This community in general has gotten so bad I don't tank unless it's for a friend or fc member or I'm short on time and need an instant queue for something. Tanks have the worst job in this game. So many other classes are so demanding they don't care about anyone but themselves anymore. Everything has to be a speed run nowadays, there's no time for newbies to get their full clears or have fights explained to them, and a lot of dps (especially when running low level instances) have the patience of a 2 year old, running off and pulling mobs on their own if they have to wait more than two seconds for a pull. I've decided I'm not going to deal with it anymore. Unless the community changes it's attitude towards tanking things will stay the same. A tankless job couldn't be more right.

[RaquelleAvarosa]

On my server's DF, we're lacking healers most of the time.
I see Adventurer in need (tank) most of the time but when I queue as a tank, no instant pop.
Duty pops instantly when I re-Q as healer like 5s later (DF still showing tank as adventurer in need). :/

[Rufalus]

Gives higher reward for adventurer in need bonus, up to ridiculous amount of 30k in proportion to how in demand the tanks are. This way you can make it more appealing without inflating the economy 'too much'.

That, or make it more flashy.

That sounds awesome. If I was getting a 30k gil adventurer in need bonus for every dungeon run, I would keep tanking (or whatever is in need) all the time, since I am always short on gil and would rather fight for it than play the market game.

[myahele]

DPS isnt the issue with not many people wanting to tank. Its the pressure to lead people through dungeons. To grab and maintain emnity throughout the fight and how boring it can be at time.

[Hyunckel]

Why people don't like the role of the TANK:

1/ They can't have big numbers and be the best DPS if they're the tank, thus it's not rewarding for them

2/ They can't lead for shit since they don't know the tactics, kill orders, where to go, when to move etc

3/ They can't be arsed to be depended upon, they only want to dps in their corner and not be blamed for anything, most don't have balls despite being keyboard warriors behind their computer

4/ ^ People like to blame the tank for loss of aggro, even if 95% of the time if the dps just /Focus'd the Tank and / or followed the 1 - 2 - 3 - 'do not attack' signs they wouldn't take aggro. Or if they waited more than one sec for the tank to build aggro (on mono target you need at least 2.5 sec to be safe, even if you pull with Tomahawk, whereas you can afk Overpower to build aoe aggro though) Therefore, they don't want to be tank.

5/ Aside the usual Commendations (which are pretty useless, kinda like those ribbons in LoL), Tanks never get a Thank You. Aside from friend circles, you can't expect people to repay you for when you help them achieve faster queue for their story line fight or daily roulette. Thus, people are not motivated to play Tank. The "Adventurer in need" bonuses are shit.

6/ When you tank, even as warrior with offparts STR, you can't really speed up the run. Whereas as a dps, if you're geared AND SKILLED you can with decent dps. Most are just trash though and use this excuse to not tank ^^

7/ People scream on you if you don't speed run, people scream on you if you went too fast and then somebody body pulled a pack of trashes etc etc. WHEN IN DOUBT BLAME THE TANK. It's fun

8/ ^ Since most of the time you are paired with random people from other servers, it gives those jerks some sence of impunity in doing so. Why would you instantly join a duty as Tank if it's to get yelled at when you can wait 30 min and chill?

9/ Most of the time, tank's duty is just to ... Get punched. Sidestep the big badass aoe. Maybe pull aggro on some incoming adds. And that's it 99% of the time. It's boring as hell. You don't feel like accomplishing anything. The only way to let things go south is if you let adds go and rape the healer or if you don't overtake aggro from a dps who's tunelling a mob for no reason the tank isn't focusing... And even then, all those are easily avoidable...

10/ Did I say the "Adventurer in need" rewards are completely crap? People complaining about lack of tanks but don't wanna tank? The job is unrewarding. You're like dogshit thrown around here and there. Doing your job nicely or like a baddie people won't see the difference most of the time, cause the role is pretty easy... Even if you just spam 1 - 2 - 3 to build aggro, and don't buff / debuff / CC etc you'll still be good in the random dps' eyes cause you held aggro while he was all out PEW PEW'ing

Tl ; dr : Tanking is boring as hell and people never say thank you. Why bother? Heck you can spam your aggro rotation for a minute and then you built so much lead you can basically afk lol.



I like tanking for now, I feel it satisfaying being able to speedrun holding aggro on mobs. Explaining tactics to newbies. Having people follow my lead. Having instant queues. Not having to roll vs half the party to get my gear (Loving how people can't roll need on tank gear unless they're tanks in this game)...
But otherwise most of the time I feel useless. I'm just a punching bag Once I'm basically done gearing this class I'll switch to a dps class. Tanking is too boring.

[CGMidlander]

Tanks get an achievement mount already, so... achievement minion time?

[Hyunckel]

Tanks get an achievement mount already, so... achievement minion time?

I think it's partly because of that mount that most went Paladins and not Warriors. The bear mount is really not as cool as the lion T_T



Seems not many people bothered grinding 200 times of the same boring crap to unlock it either in fact lol. I know I won't

[Gimorian401]

I agree with a lot of you. It takes a certain person to tank. You love it or hate it. A lot of people dont like the pressure of it or the lack of numbers. Giving better rewards for tanking will only bring people that either hate the job, are inexperianced there for will more than likely take a lot of ridicule for their lack of skill which both in the end will cause more problems. No matter how interesting you make the actual mechanics its just as simple as a lot of people for many reasons just dont like tanking.