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  1. #71
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    I'm more annoyed that shared gear can't have different glamors. I want my Paladin in Noct gear to wear the lionsmane stuff. I want my Warrior in that same noct gear to wear the Warrior AF. PLEASE LET ME :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    that means we'll have to carry all those vanity gears all the time, for every jobs.

    it works only in other MMOs that has one job per character.
    I think that's the crux of the issue with a lot of peoples' thinking. SE can't just wave a magic wand to give us all of this while maintaining a sane amount of character data. They've even said they WANT to add this stuff (in the very Q&A this thread is blasting but they can't due to limitations with the size of character data. FFXIV characters are MASSIVE in size compared to other games, and until PS3 support is dropped (which isn't happening any time soon as it's still the #1~2 home console in Japan and will be until the PS4 drops in price and has more good games come out for it) the storage limitation is going to rear its ugly head.
    Also, this thread is getting absurd. I see people asking for less restrictions and more restrictions. Make up your mind, compose a proposal, and submit it. They're not going to make changes to "what the playerbase wants" if the playerbase can't even agree whether or not tanks should be allowed to wear dresses.

    Quote Originally Posted by ExKage View Post
    I'm more annoyed that shared gear can't have different glamors. I want my Paladin in Noct gear to wear the lionsmane stuff. I want my Warrior in that same noct gear to wear the Warrior AF. PLEASE LET ME :/
    Personally i see THIS as a more viable issue, but this would be solved if they just gave classes their own gear rather than bunching the healers, tanks, and caster DPS into one gear set, which they might end up doing for Heavensward given they announced AF2 already.
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    Last edited by kyuven; 12-05-2014 at 03:42 AM.

  3. #73
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pyretta_Blaze View Post
    I'd actually prefer it if the tightened up those items that can be used to look unlike your role. I also really dislike swimsuit tanks and Snowman heads.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jaykos View Post
    Right with you. Its unfortunate that there's other players breaking my immersion haha
    So, because you don't like it, other people shouldn't have the option?
    What's the point of having armor that you can't ever wear (the holiday event armor, glamour items, and pretty much anything that is the current BiS)? Even if it is silly, revealing, and/or not in-line with the concept of the class/job, it could be in-line with what that player wants the character to be, which I think is far more important to immersion than tanks = heavy armor, mages = robes. :B
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  4. #74
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mimilu View Post
    So, because you don't like it, other people shouldn't have the option?
    What's the point of having armor that you can't ever wear (the holiday event armor, glamour items, and pretty much anything that is the current BiS)? Even if it is silly, revealing, and/or not in-line with the concept of the class/job, it could be in-line with what that player wants the character to be, which I think is far more important to immersion than tanks = heavy armor, mages = robes. :B
    Right with you. Its unfortunate that there's other players breaking my immersion haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edellis View Post
    Actually, this does a very good job of keeping the game "unique". It's this thing called coherence, and despite the fact we can glamour anyway, it's pretty well maintained in FFXIV.

    People always bring up this argument that allowing your character to look literally exactly how you want it is somehow inherently "better". Well, you know what, looking at "every other MMO" on the market, i feel like sometimes limitations are a good thing.
    I don't get your argument. Having to waste money/time on getting prisms isn't unique, it's tedious. And the fact we have to do it repeatedly on the same piece of armor if we want to change doesn't help.
    Vanity slots would be more streamline, cost effective for the users, and resolve ExKage's problem of classes/jobs sharing equipment-glamour.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mimilu View Post
    Vanity slots would be more streamline, cost effective for the users, and resolve ExKage's problem of classes/jobs sharing equipment-glamour.
    PS3/character data limitations. Not kidding. Go read the Q&A under the question for why they won't add tackle boxes. If they won't add a separate box for the relatively small number (compared to the number of armor pieces) of different kinds of bait, i doubt they'll add vanity slots that would basically tax the system even more than that.
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    I made this thread a while ago, I wonder if perhaps not many people saw it, but I think it's relevant to the discussion; http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...sible-solution
    It would be nice if you could drop by and drop off your opinion.
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    Hi Tiffany, I truly understand your point of view and appreciate your post but from what I see is that, if glamour restriction is lifted, the game will become a total mess, each class would loose it's identity from the gear it was specifically designed for. I would say release a huge (if not countless) set of gears with exceptional designs and have glamour give the opportunity to switch appearances within each class or ditch the entire glamour system and introduce and new system where gear appearances or 'shadow' or whichever commercial name it can have made obtainable through game activities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kyuven View Post
    PS3/character data limitations. Not kidding. Go read the Q&A under the question for why they won't add tackle boxes. If they won't add a separate box for the relatively small number (compared to the number of armor pieces) of different kinds of bait, i doubt they'll add vanity slots that would basically tax the system even more than that.
    Yoshi-P has also said that if PS3 limitations held the game back too much that they would cut it. Granted, that's also if there is a decline in PS3 users and/or enough people clamored for it and were leaving for other games because of it... :B

    Source: http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...p_features_of/
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    Quote Originally Posted by kyuven View Post
    snip.
    That's not even close to the same thing as this.

    Extra Inventory = more data saved on the character = memory limitation that's adding a whole new subset of inventory giving you much more data stored on your character relevant to the amount of items stored inside the tackle box plus your inventory itself, plus your key items, plus your actual character, their stats, your name, your looks.

    Glamour is an already existing thing, the items already exist, you right now can wear any of the items you have the class for and store them all no problem. = not limited by memory.

    Coding it separate from the armoury system is a whole different ballgame though.
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