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  1. #61
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    Shadex De'marr
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    While I agree with the assessment that Yoshi generally has no idea what is going on with the development of his own game and I also personally would love to see a more restrictive system as I think the current one is extremely broken and slanted...

    That being said it is actually pretty useful the way it is now. Attire is like an avatar name. It is a very telling initial measuring method of a player's status. When you are in a DF and your tank is a Roe in a tiger speedo, a snowman head, and is named Poofeeeee Nardsack you can bet with about 98% certainty they are going to be a tool and a liability to your team. There are exceptions but they are like bigfoot, everyone has heard of them but no one has seen one.
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  2. #62
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    Sonja Djt-bidit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    A big reason for this is a lot of them are items from 1.0 which. Most tabards in 1.0 for example were properly tagged, but the original image of XIV the cowl and robes were very heavily rewarded in guild leves and was originally part of the 'Favor' system. A lot of ARR exclusive items or redesigns are properly tagged. Mages with dated gear can run around in heavy armor for example.
    That makes sense, and it likely is a pain to go back and retrofit. For purely selfish reasons, I still really really really want something akin to the tabard for all classes so I can do a universal glamour .


    Quote Originally Posted by Shadex View Post
    When you are in a DF and your tank is a Roe in a tiger speedo, a snowman head, and is named Poofeeeee Nardsack you can bet with about 98% certainty they are going to be a tool and a liability to your team. There are exceptions but they are like bigfoot, everyone has heard of them but no one has seen one.
    My co-workers are staring at me and and wondering why I'm laughing. I'm going to let them assume I'm reading a Cracked article or something. Also, I'm going to set a reminder to make the character you describe when I get home.
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    Last edited by Teryaani; 12-05-2014 at 01:56 AM. Reason: Post conservation
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  3. #63
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    Aiden Weaver
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mjollnir View Post
    To me, it seems a lot of the core mechanics of the game are based on classic D&D (eg if you reduce your stats right down at lv1, removing racial bonuses, you'll get straight 18 scores).

    The armour is the same - light/medium/heavy. 'All Classes' can use light armour, as it's essentially just clothing. Restrictions are put in place for medium and heavy armour because you need a degree of training in order to wear it effectively in a combat situation. This is the concept in D&D and it's transferred over to FFXIV.
    That's wrong though. Mages can't wear all light armor. There are plenty of clothes for DoW that would be considered light that we DoM are restricted from wearing.
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  4. #64
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    Doki Waku
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    Disable glamors in instances : done
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  5. #65
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    Evangela Monterossa
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    DoW shouldn't be able to wear DoM gears (those low level gears).
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  6. #66
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    Here's an idea: How about we dump this idiotic glamour prism system and just have vanity slots like every sane mmorpg out there?

    Square-Enix is doing the same problem they did with 1.0 in which they're making this unnecessarily complex.

    It would have been easier to just have instanced personal housing. It would have been easier to have personal rooms accessible outside the house. It would have been easier to make the coil lockout similar to crystal tower's loot lockout. It would have been easier to have never incorporated classes at all.

    They do these ridiculous things to make the game more "unique" but in reality it's just it steals a lot of it's gameplay from other online games.
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  7. #67
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    Quote Originally Posted by SekhmetM View Post
    Here's an idea: How about we dump this idiotic glamour prism system and just have vanity slots like every sane mmorpg out there?

    They do these ridiculous things to make the game more "unique" but in reality it's just it steals a lot of it's gameplay from other online games.
    Actually, this does a very good job of keeping the game "unique". It's this thing called coherence, and despite the fact we can glamour anyway, it's pretty well maintained in FFXIV.

    People always bring up this argument that allowing your character to look literally exactly how you want it is somehow inherently "better". Well, you know what, looking at "every other MMO" on the market, i feel like sometimes limitations are a good thing.
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    Last edited by Edellis; 12-05-2014 at 03:20 AM.

  8. #68
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    Skadi Felis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doki View Post
    Disable glamors in instances : done
    and finding out that the tank is actually wearing a real swimsuit ^^

    Also "all classes" should be restricted to classes. Gear glamoured with a skin from a "all classes" gear should show the original skin if equiped on a job.
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    Last edited by Felis; 12-05-2014 at 03:22 AM.

  9. #69
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    And hell, whatever, not to mention, in most MMOs (typically Kmmos with extravagant cash shop apparel that is 100% nowhere close to the in-game lore attire), everyone looks the exact same anyway.

    Schoolgirl, swimsuit, tuxedo, bath robes, yukuta, wedding dress, fancy red carpet dress, korean Kpop girl group buttondowns and glowy flowers and tie bows every goddamn where. every. single. game.

    You can wear whatever you want, but you get to endgame and everyone's wearing the same thing. And notice how i only mentioned tuxedo for the guys, because that's typically the only half-decent looking thing they actually get.
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    Last edited by Edellis; 12-05-2014 at 03:23 AM.

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    Evangela Monterossa
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    Quote Originally Posted by SekhmetM View Post
    Here's an idea: How about we dump this idiotic glamour prism system and just have vanity slots like every sane mmorpg out there?

    Square-Enix is doing the same problem they did with 1.0 in which they're making this unnecessarily complex.

    It would have been easier to just have instanced personal housing. It would have been easier to have personal rooms accessible outside the house. It would have been easier to make the coil lockout similar to crystal tower's loot lockout. It would have been easier to have never incorporated classes at all.

    They do these ridiculous things to make the game more "unique" but in reality it's just it steals a lot of it's gameplay from other online games.
    that means we'll have to carry all those vanity gears all the time, for every jobs.

    it works only in other MMOs that has one job per character.
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