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  1. #4091
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    SunnyHirose's Avatar
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    Sunny Hirose
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    Hyperion
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    Lancer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Gh0st_Pr0digy View Post
    I've been trying to work on my dragoon dps on a dummy when bored lately and I find myself struggling on tp before invigorate is back up. Is that normal? I hit the first invigorate at 460 tp and only have skill speed from liberator and astrum chest I believe

    Also if any controller players could share their cross bar set up Id like to get ideas how I could maybe change mine. I have a problem switching between cross bars easily >.<
    I had 44x skill speed once upon a time (Liberator + HA pants, wooooo). The goal is to hit Invigorate as soon as you drop to 440 TP (450 can be awesome if you know exactly what you're doing, but 430 is too late). For best results, get a BLM-like spider-sense to time it with the TP regeneration ticks so that you get the full 60 TP out of that.

    Testing this at 464 skill speed, I can just barely be riding the ticks a few GCDs before the second Invigorate. If you're lucky, things will still slow down enough that you're mashing the skill waiting for the regen, but not so slow that the rotation gets misaligned.

    This is my cross hotbar setup, although I have switched PPP and Piercing Talon after putting these screenshots together (oh, and I leveled monk, too, so now Mantra occupies where Foresight used to be). The difference you will find from most controller DRGs is that I put cooldowns next to the GCDs they come after in the opener; it makes the execution very simple, I think.

    Also, I use expanded controls so that I access set 2 with LT->RT and RT->LT. This is fairly handy when using the STR potion, for instance.
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    Last edited by SunnyHirose; 12-04-2014 at 07:51 AM.

  2. #4092
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    Daweism's Avatar
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    Kurama Uchiha
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 70
    Did 508 skill speed setup yesterday, it was about 2 seconds shy of being able to do 3 thrust rotations without the dots falling off. It was melded i100 pvp gear @ i103 with i100 weapon. 430 DPS with party and food buffs.
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  3. #4093
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    LordMaitreya's Avatar
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    Jsun El
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dragoon Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Daweism View Post
    Did 508 skill speed setup yesterday, it was about 2 seconds shy of being able to do 3 thrust rotations without the dots falling off. It was melded i100 pvp gear @ i103 with i100 weapon. 430 DPS with party and food buffs.
    Doesn't surprise me. Over time the more skill speed Dragoons get the more the optimal rotation is going to change.
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  4. #4094
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    Gh0st_Pr0digy's Avatar
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    Ghost Prodigy
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    Faerie
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    Lancer Lv 50
    i just looked and i have 414 skillspeed(currently looking to get the crafted chest piece)

    Also i currently use one cross bar and the expanded one which lets me fit basically everything except keen flurry and AoE without switching bars, im just thinking towards the expansion with new abilities how im gonna fit them in/on my bar since switching cross bars in combat isnt something i find that flows smoothly for me but im also not used to doing
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  5. #4095
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    seekified's Avatar
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    Karis Angara
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    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 80
    I actually didn't find the expanded (L1+R1) bars until very recently, so I've been placing all cross-class and job skills on a second bar. I'm used to it and it's all muscle memory, so it works well for me. I'm going to experiment with the expanded bars from now on though as it'll mean less room for misclicks and give me more easily accessible hotbar space when the level cap is increased and we get ~5 new skills.

    I keep my skills in the order they were placed on the bar whilst levelling up, starting with True Thrust on the far right. It's perhaps not the most click-efficient way of accessing all my skill, but again - it's muscle memory at this point and I feel I'd just give myself unnecessary problems if I changed it now.
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    Last edited by seekified; 12-04-2014 at 11:32 PM.

  6. #4096
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    Leonus's Avatar
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    Kenrir Amnis
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    Sargatanas
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Gawd I hope these drg buffs are phenomenal.
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  7. #4097
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    Hulvein Wyrmblood
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    Cerberus
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Leonus View Post
    Gawd I hope these drg buffs are phenomenal.
    Well, probably wouldn't get too excited.

    Ninja nerfs are just..

    Aeolian Edge and Shadow Fang cost up by 10TP to 60 and 70.
    Poisons increase physical damage only.
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  8. #4098
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    Kenrir Amnis
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    Sargatanas
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by HulveinBlitz View Post
    Well, probably wouldn't get too excited.

    Ninja nerfs are just..

    Aeolian Edge and Shadow Fang cost up by 10TP to 60 and 70.
    Poisons increase physical damage only.
    Well, there wasn't really any need to nerf ninja into the ground, the just need to buff drg into the sky.
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  9. #4099
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    Tilgung's Avatar
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    Raein Tilgung
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    Balmung
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    Dragoon Lv 60
    They specifically stated Ninja was only doing slightly more damage than they'd intended, anyone expecting a massive nerf was an idiot.
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  10. #4100
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    Hulvein Wyrmblood
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    Cerberus
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Tilgung View Post
    They specifically stated Ninja was only doing slightly more damage than they'd intended
    Exactly. Not sure why there was mass hysteria that ninja would suddenly get abandoned lol.
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  11. 12-05-2014 03:47 AM
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    wrong question

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