Quote Originally Posted by Shioban View Post
Yet again, go back and google what Pay to Win is. Please read more than one web-page, article or journal on what the gaming community usually means by pay-to-win, you'll find that every single result says some form of;

Payment for Progress. This means, in-game currencies, point progression boosts, content access, items that aid game progression.

It doesn't take a developer or a genius to figure that out, you're PAYING TO WIN if it's pay-to-win. Obtaining a minion designed FOR a cash-shop, by paying for it is not winning.

The only occasion this would be true was if the case wasl "Fish 200 Titanic Saw-fish to unlock; the ability to purchase a minion for £5!!"


Minions/Vanity do NOT aid progress, you're trying to argue terminology and twist it for your own needs, that's now how things work.

You can't say "Oh, but officer the light was red! Red can sometimes mean excitement or exhilaration or lust, therefore it would make sense that I start driving!".

Not really for my needs, I don't see SE removing it because of some sudden change in popular definition. Just that arguing that people cannot interpret it a certain way are wrong, they're not wrong just they're not the common factor.

The issue lies in poor delineation, some how certain contents are not contents. Can you not progress on a list of items, winning when you get that mount? I know how SE is defining pay to win and it is different than some people in the forums, mostly due to a hard to clearly define without being verbose point of what is what. "No it is easy, progress is coil - not earning mounts" But see, you can know that is not true for some people - you're not respecting their perspective when you force a simple and lose meaning and use as a way to beat them upside the head with it.

Also again, you know that majority usage does not mean -only- usage.

Also your last example is not very good, because in that case the law forces you to accept common definition - here you are talking to people and if you want to understand them you cannot take legitimate interpretations and say they're wrong. It is fair to say they are not common though.

If not obvious since it appears you're getting a bit haughty - I'm not saying you're wrong in popular interpretation I'm saying there is an area of movement in language and fair rediscovery that people are completely shutting down rather than getting to the point of it.