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    Player Shioban's Avatar
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    Shio Ban
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Razzle View Post
    I'm a minion collector, minions are my content and the cash shop provides advantage on my in game activity from extra cash in addition to the sub fee D:

    So if I pay the cash shop - I win the minion (which happens to be my in game goal) = Pay 2 Win D:
    Pay to Win in the eyes of a developer, the vast majority of it's players, and anyone who isn't trying to shout "LOOK ITS PAY TO WIN, LOOK LOOK IT MUST BE BECAUSE I LIKE THIS!"

    That's not what the industry considers 'Pay to Win'.


    Pay to win is where actual gameplay content is by-passed, eased or enhanced through real world transactions;

    Better Gear, Better Stats, Removal of Weakness, Limit Break Builders, EXP Buffs, Allagan Tombstones Puchase.

    THOSE things would be considered 'Pay To Win', not "I like to collect minions, therefore it must be pay to win", by the vast majority of the community.




    Quote Originally Posted by Edeline View Post
    Where do four tiny minions and a mount come under "Essential Vanity".




    Quote Originally Posted by Dyvid View Post
    So is wedding vanity? Is housing vanity? Is crafting and gathering vanity? Is everything but PvE vanity? Content is content whether it's PvE, PvP, or sandbox. The fact is they are hiding half the wedding feature and to "win" the best gear and items from the wedding event you have to buy it for real money = pay to win.

    Disclaimer: I'm not going to get married but I do believe patch updated features should be free for subcribers. CS is for services. If SE really needs more money then raise the month sub fee but don't nickel and dime us with paywalls. I would much rather pay $2 extra a month and have Slepnir drop from Odin EX than be required to spend $20 to get him.
    IF. And only IF, they actually do add tiers to the mog-station the free ceremony is still available.

    I'm not saying it's the most ethical choice, but the choice is still there and they've made it for you.

    You have three tiers, you choose which tier you want. If you feel it's worth your money to buy it, then buy it. If you feel it isn't then don't purchase it and show them that it's not what you want.



    You can type paragraphs, upon paragraphs into the forums. But if people buy it, it'll continue.

    That's a fact. Numbers vs. Words.
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    Last edited by Shioban; 12-02-2014 at 06:41 AM.