Women and Armor!

[Xhominid]

I'm beginning to laugh at how hard Aegis is defending his position despite sounding extremely like a Knight Templar without even noticing it...

There's a difference between cleavage bearing and panty shots and basically dressing in bikini armor and trust me as a guy who played DOZENS of MMOs, this game is like a nun house.

"But 1.0 was completely practical" WHO CARES ABOUT PRACTICALITY TO THAT END? Again, I keep hearing the ridiculous practicality behind Female Dragoons having an open part at the stomach over and over, yet not even the best armor in the world shouldn't stop any level of decent magic, a Primal in general and something the size of a Gobbue from killing the user while in said armor.
And if 1.0 is so practical, Why isn't the mage classes wearing armor? Why isn't the Bard/Ninja/Monk classes wearing armor? Hell, why in the real world don't we wear complete bodysuits on the level of bomb squad users? Why just a Kevlar vest?


In MMOs, practicality should just be a user based issue, not a random creed which makes no sense whatsoever.

[Gralna]

So then if my argument is a strawman, how'd you rate yours? You said yourself that other games mentioned in this thread are the low end of the bar, I have yet to see anything in game that is worse than these...



Surely a family oriented media company hasn't set the bar too low for even you?

[Aegis]

So then if my argument is a strawman, how'd you rate yours? You said yourself that other games mentioned in this thread are the low end of the bar, I have yet to see anything in game that is worse than these...



Surely a family oriented media company hasn't set the bar too low for even you?

I think I missed the film where Jessica Rabbit was a warrior swinging a battleaxe at a raging primal. If lounge singer were a job in this game, that gear would be very appropriate.

And if 1.0 is so practical, Why isn't the mage classes wearing armor? Why isn't the Bard/Ninja/Monk classes wearing armor? Hell, why in the real world don't we wear complete bodysuits on the level of bomb squad users? Why just a Kevlar vest?

Well, the fantasy trope for this (originally D&D-style game rules) is that heavy armour hinders intricate arm movements needed for casters and martial artists. Also, mages could wear heavy armour in 1.0.

And knights did wear full plate mail armour similar, infantry did wear everything from subligaria and harnesses to chain/scale mail. Shinobi did not wear plate armour. But, at no point in any culture's history did anyone ever think "You know what offers the greatest balance between cost/protection and mobility? A Battle bikini/miniskirt Combo!"

[Magis]

So then the second Ifrit does his inferno breath all cloth characters should burn to a crisp and the tank broils inside his metal armour?

How about when you get stabbed by a lonely imperial you hunch over and bleed to death?

Games are designed around suspension of disbelief. It's why you can take 100 bullets in Call of Duty, bleed out of your eyes for a bit, and then be right as rain.

[Gralna]

I think I missed the film where Jessica Rabbit was a warrior swinging a battleaxe at a raging primal. If lounge singer were a job in this game, that gear would be very appropriate.

Lol, so you're issue isn't even really if clothes/armor are too revealing, it's that they arn't realistic? This is a Fantasy game, it has Fantasy in it's title, we have giant fire-breathing dragons, people who can teleport halfway across the world in seconds, and a giant sentient crystal that chose you to be her champion... how is any of that realistic?

This isn't Sci-Fi where you're suppose to keep story on a foundation of possible reality, it's Fantasy, writers and artists can do whatever they want, and as long as their boss think it looks nice, it doesn't even need a foundation.

[Naelle]

Lol, so you're issue isn't even really if clothes/armor are too revealing, it's that they arn't realistic? This is a Fantasy game, it has Fantasy in it's title, we have giant fire-breathing dragons, people who can teleport halfway across the world in seconds, and a giant sentient crystal that chose you to be her champion... how is any of that realistic?

This isn't Sci-Fi where you're suppose to keep story on a foundation of possible reality, it's Fantasy, writers and artists can do whatever they want, and as long as their boss think it looks nice, it doesn't even need a foundation.

The crystal chose me, actually. Said so herself. Not sure I was comfortable though because on that giant crystal I saw not one scrap of clothing...

[Zedd702]

The crystal chose me, actually. Said so herself. Not sure I was comfortable though because on that giant crystal I saw not one scrap of clothing...

I agree!

SE Put some clothes on Hydaelyn! Her boulders are exposed!

[Xhominid]

So then if my argument is a strawman, how'd you rate yours? You said yourself that other games mentioned in this thread are the low end of the bar, I have yet to see anything in game that is worse than these...



Surely a family oriented media company hasn't set the bar too low for even you?

1. When did ANYTHING in this game past Subligars make a character look like that PAST Cloth? And hell, most cloth only show Cleavage and maybe thigh, so yeah?

2. NEITHER of the 3 is even remotely risque or even out of it considering:
A) Jasmine is basically wearing a bellydancer outfit and she isn't much of a fighter
B) Ariel is a mermaid...you expect her to wear a shirt and pants?
C) Jessica Rabbit is a cartoon SPECIFICALLY MADE to be Titillating. She even states as such in the movie.

What point is here at all?

Well, the fantasy trope for this (originally D&D-style game rules) is that heavy armour hinders intricate arm movements needed for casters and martial artists. Also, mages could wear heavy armour in 1.0.

And knights did wear full plate mail armour similar, infantry did wear everything from subligaria and harnesses to chain/scale mail. Shinobi did not wear plate armour. But, at no point in any culture's history did anyone ever think "You know what offers the greatest balance between cost/protection and mobility? A Battle bikini/miniskirt Combo!"

1. Does Heavy Armor benefit Mages in anyway in 1.0? And considering Final Fantasy is BASED on Dungeons & Dragons like most RPGs, they would have similar reasons.

2. And I'm not saying any of that nonsense...
I said it the way I did because in actuality, being in massively heavy armor is a HINDERANCE more than a help in real life(Mainly because mobility is far better or armor costs is more than feasible). I'm not saying a miniskirt/bikini combo works in real life because of course it doesn't, but tell me this:
If an enemy shoots flame that is virtually hot enough to be used as a weapon by a beastman tribe, what level of armor is gonna protect you at all from being torched/being melted alive other than getting the hell out of the way?

[Amelia_Pond_Behemoth]

So many people are missing the OP's point. The OP isn't complaining about the presence of revealing armor. OP is complaining about why females wearing the exact same gear as males, show more skin. The DRG body was used as a good example.

[raelgun]

So many people are missing the OP's point. The OP isn't complaining about the presence of revealing armor. OP is complaining about why females wearing the exact same gear as males, show more skin. The DRG body was used as a good example.

They were probably made with feedback from female cosplayers which some of the armour has so far, and they prob thought what they would wear, lets not beat around the bush, theres far more cosplayers that use costumes that show more skin then the other way around.
Yes really not joking, some of the armour was made with cosplay in mind and was developed along side cosplayers in the designs.