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    Quote Originally Posted by Remilia_Nightfall View Post
    They did that with the Noct Lorica. Result? Cute girls with abs.



    People complained (and rightly so).

    Style is important, in a FF game.
    More people have complained over the stab window in the DRG AF than the noct lorica abs.

    But it's irrelevant really. The devs have made their decision. More gender dimorphic gear is being introduced. More gear that is plainly there for titillation also. I think no amount of these kind of threads is going to change their minds one iota. It just seems a shame to me because I had expected more after playing XI and XIV 1.0 and being spoiled by the more mature approach.
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    I sense a Rokien...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naelle View Post
    I sense a Rokien...
    I have no problem with people wearing what they want to wear, but let's not pretend the level 1 RSE was introduced for any reason other than cheap tawdry "Tee hee, I can see her underwear"

    Let's call a spade a spade.
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    Ok gonna bite on this thread, as a owner of the FF14 artbook that I acquired at fanfest. Theres little quotes from the designers of the artwork on every piece.
    The most striking quote was that the start race gear was designed with cosplayers in mind and was aided by cosplayers, which you might notice most high profile cosplayers are female.
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    I still don't see how this game is as 'juvenile' as some want to say. Outside of the coatee line, a large portion of level 1 vanity and a handful of other armor, the armor in this game is rather unisex, conservative and barely anything to get 'bothered' over. Monster Hunter is more dimorphic than this game (and more over the top). Calling back to my previous posts, there's Korean games where the ENTIRE library of female armor is titillating eye-candy clearly aimed at appealing to male players. Comparing this game to that is being very shortsighted. The developers have spoken, and they obviously prefer practical over puerile.
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  6. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilraen View Post
    I still don't see how this game is as 'juvenile' as some want to say. Outside of the coatee line, a large portion of level 1 vanity and a handful of other armor, the armor in this game is rather unisex, conservative and barely anything to get 'bothered' over. Monster Hunter is more dimorphic than this game (and more over the top). Calling back to my previous posts, there's Korean games where the ENTIRE library of female armor is titillating eye-candy clearly aimed at appealing to male players. Comparing this game to that is being very shortsighted. The developers have spoken, and they obviously prefer practical over puerile.
    There was a time when there was no impractical gear in this game. They're moving away from that.

    Just because other games set a low bar, doesn't mean that's the bar to judge against.
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    I'm not a fan of the skimpy armors and what-not either, but it doesn't directly effect me. Sure, it's annoying to see the tank in coil running around with glamoured swimwear but not because "omg I can see her (nonexistant)butt!", rather because it breaks my view of how the game is. My view; One of millions that deserves no more and no less than anyone else's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aegis View Post
    I've played the game long enough to remember when all the gear was equal for both genders.

    Then they added the coatee set: Formal suit and pants for man, miniskirt with stockings and epic cleavage for woman.
    Then they added the AFs: WHM: Men get bagy shorts, women get a mini-skirt that changes to panties depending on what you wear, DRG AF has the inexplicable belly window.
    Then with 2.0 they relesed the mini-skirt starter RSE.
    They've since added Ninja AF with the cleavage for women.
    Midlander underwear, from the very very beginning of 1.0

    female version


    male version (the left one)


    Also I think the coatee came ingame 2 or 3 months after launch? I know that there was still the old dev team.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aegis View Post
    There was a time when there was no impractical gear in this game. They're moving away from that.

    Just because other games set a low bar, doesn't mean that's the bar to judge against.
    impractical gear like gear showing too much skin?



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    Last edited by Felis; 12-02-2014 at 01:11 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aegis View Post
    There was a time when there was no impractical gear in this game. They're moving away from that.

    Just because other games set a low bar, doesn't mean that's the bar to judge against.
    I think you dropped this...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    Midlander underwear, from the very very beginning of 1.0

    female version


    male version (the left one)
    Underwear is underwear and doesn't cover much by design. That's normal. That was for a slot that doesn't even exist anymore. Interestingly, since you *had* to wear underwear and you couldn't repair gear you were wearing, you always had to have a second pair to change into. A good life lesson there for us all. The level 1 gear you got when you started was weathered slops or tabard or things like that which varied with your class.

    Subligaria are actual combat clothing worn by ancient greeks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gralna View Post
    Lulz if you're not wearing two bits of tissue paper connected by dental floss ur such a prude !!!!11!!

    I can manage to disagree with others without strawmanning their position (Other than the above for illustrative purposes).
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    Last edited by Aegis; 12-02-2014 at 01:27 AM.

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