Dragoon buffs and Ninja nerfs coming Dec 9th in patch 2.45

[kyrios91]

By that logic though, nerf mnk. That said I think mnk is fine as is.

Anyway just cause it's stronger than intended doesn't mean it's op.

By what logic? I don't say anything against MNKs and Yoshi did said that MNKs are intended to be the #1 melee DPS because of the higher skill ceiling. And according to the FF traditions, Monks / Black Belts are usually the best DPS in a Job-based setting like FF3 and FF5, so I'm good with it. The thing with NINs is that their attack potencies are almost as high as DRGs, lower TP cost, and have an attack speed buff that is the same as GL3, 15%. So basically NINs are DRGs that attacks as fast as MNKs do, and that's pretty OP. You only need to worry about your Ninjutsus and can just faceroll attack from wherever you want while MNKs / DRGs sometimes can't do their positionals because of some AOE skills that occur on the boss' flank / rear.
Funny thing is that now DRGs finally get the things they deserved since 2.0, people start whining "OMG DRG BECOMES OP NOW AND MY NIN IS NERFED BECAUSE OF THEM". DRGs deserve every single thing they could get in 2.45 and everyone that are not biased towards NINs could see why.

[BrokenFiend]

Funny thing is that now DRGs finally get the things they deserved since 2.0, people start whining "OMG DRG BECOMES OP NOW AND MY NIN IS NERFED BECAUSE OF THEM". DRGs deserve every single thing they could get in 2.45 and everyone that are not biased towards NINs could see why.

You know those are two different things, right?

I am happy that DRG is getting a buff, it's the class I started with, I have a soft spot for it and any DRG main should be happy and I am glad for them.

Doesn't mean Ninja needs a nerf. At all. There is no reason for it.

[SolarMisae]

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By the logic of it doing slightly more/equal damage to others ninja is considered op by your logic basically. So monk brings good utility AND higher damage so it's also op and needs nerf. My point is neither one really needs a nerf because they're fine as is. Also, anyone who thinks monk's skill ceiling is really that high doesn't know the class.

You also seemed to miss where I said I was fine with damage nerfs to ninja, as I DO think drg should do more dps since ninja brings utility, it's the tp nerfs I don't like. I used to main drg so I know they needed the buff, I even personally think the buffs they are getting may not even be enough, but ninjas tp usage doesn't need to be nerfed. Depending on how bad the tp costs are post patch, the tp nerf will indirectly make goad FAR less useful, since if a ninja is bottoming out at the same time as a monk, paeon is better to use than goad. Read some of my other posts on the matter. So basically, I'm okay with some nerfs, but nerfing both their utility AND their damage is far more than needed. Just a small damage nerf would be perfectly fine along with buffing dragoons damage more.

I am happy that DRG is getting a buff, it's the class I started with, I have a soft spot for it and any DRG man should be happy and I am glad for them.

Doesn't mean Ninja needs a nerf. At all. There is no reason for it.

Yes exactly this. *thumbsup*

[Sleigh]

By what logic? I don't say anything against MNKs and Yoshi did said that MNKs are intended to be the #1 melee DPS because of the higher skill ceiling.

MNK's probably the easiest to do well with in a raid setting, both in terms of rotation and CD management. There's way more going on with the other two melee.