Eternal Bond - Standard Plan and Gold Plan

[AggieRick]

[SpookyGhost]

I think you mistook raiding for world first competition. To say very few people raid is wildly inaccurate.

Nope, meant that pretty literally. A drastically small % of people have stepped foot into the first Coil, or made it past Turn 1. Even less have cleared T5. It's really the minority doing any sort of raiding.

I don't know how the Odin mount has made it clear plenty are willing to throw SE cash for items. Were there sales figures released or something? If there was, I'd like to see them. I'm interested in how the whole cash shop thing is going vs the amount of people that unsubbed over it. It's also interesting that you think the game will stay afloat due to the cash shop. Usually a cash shop is a sign that the game is struggling. Usually when a cash shop is introduced it's because the game is heading to F2P. Usually when a game becomes F2P it loses all the appeal it had when it was sub based.

But I digress. I understand this argument, that "you aren't going to buy anything from the cash shop so all those idiots out there who do are just helping keep your game alive!" That's an understandable mentality, but not an educated one. TERA is a fine example of how a fantastic game went down hill very quickly and became more cash shop focused than gameplay focused. When the cash shop starts taking away from things you like about the game, that's when you'll dislike it - until then it doesn't affect you so you don't care. Which is cool, but do keep in mind that you aren't the majority and that's really just how YOU feel.

[Ashgarth]

This is hardly "gateing content" the event is freely available. The 2 person mount is a luxury for now you either pay for it or wait for them to release a free one.
If it came to that yes I would complain so would anyone else but this is just more glamour.
But as I said you can just pay or wait.

The question is: Why the hell do we have to pay for stuff in a game with a monthly subscription?

How long until Deluxe houses you can only get from the cash shop? Or armor/weapon skins? Alternate versions of items, emotes, hairstyles, an airship you can ride with other people? FC Banners, Capes and an endless list of things.

None of the things i've listed is "game breaking" its all glamour or optional stuff but, why the actual fck am I paying a subscription if they are going to shove down our throats the same cash shop a F2P has?

[Kaoru_Nagisa]

I want to punch SE in the throat right now.

This is utterly ridiculous. But I suppose I shouldn't have been surprised - I had a sour taste forming in my mouth the moment they made people pay extra money for additional retainers.

[Squintina]

Well they announced 2 plans for eternal bond in the live letter. Standard plan is free. Gold plan costs money but gets you mount+minion and more dress options.

So will you get a gold plan wedding knowing it costs money? I wonder if both people have to pay money. But more details with the patch notes.

I don't mind the cash shop having the minion + dress options, as that's just vanity.

But the mount, from what I remember, was supposed to be a 2-person mount. That's not just vanity, that's functionality T.T. It should be part of the free one.

[Tannlore]

I don't mind the cash shop having the minion + dress options, as that's just vanity.

But the mount, from what I remember, was supposed to be a 2-person mount. That's not just vanity, that's functionality T.T. It should be part of the free one.

This is the only problem I have with this. The 2-person mount should be a part of the free version and a different one on the paid version. Not sure why they are doing this.

[Riepah]

Not sure why they are doing this.

Because they can, and because there are plenty of people who'll support anything SE does, no matter how disgusting it is. What does SE care if some people quit, as long as there are enough of those who are willing to pay a monthly subscription in order to be treated like freeloaders in a F2P game?

[Tannlore]

Because they can, and because there are plenty of people who'll support anything SE does, no matter how disgusting it is. What does SE care if some people quit, as long as there are enough of those who are willing to pay a monthly subscription in order to be treated like freeloaders in a F2P game?

"Because they can" seems inefficient. More money? The likely cause. However, there may be other reasons on top of just money. Perhaps it is a server load/code issue, or a higher up said no, or they tossed a coin. *shrug* Honestly, unless you were privy to the discussion in the planning room about it, it is all conjecture. No matter how white/black knight anyone might be.

Who knows, they may reply to this thread to explain why. I'd like that, if for nothing else but an official answer. Even if it is: we want more money.

[Wildsprite]

The question is: Why the hell do we have to pay for stuff in a game with a monthly subscription?

How long until Deluxe houses you can only get from the cash shop? Or armor/weapon skins? Alternate versions of items, emotes, hairstyles, an airship you can ride with other people? FC Banners, Capes and an endless list of things.

None of the things i've listed is "game breaking" its all glamour or optional stuff but, why the actual fck am I paying a subscription if they are going to shove down our throats the same cash shop a F2P has?

my speculation is that they are doing this because the higher ups aren't putting enough money back into the game for them to be able to get good equipment and give us a more stable environment. it costs money and they have to get it from somewhere. yes I could be wrong but I figured after seeing the unstable start of 2.0 that was probably it when they mentioned the cash shop to start with.

[ZanzhizExaverion]

I don't mind the cash shop having the minion + dress options, as that's just vanity.

But the mount, from what I remember, was supposed to be a 2-person mount. That's not just vanity, that's functionality T.T. It should be part of the free one.

I disagree. Adding a mount to the free version defeats the purpose of people truly enjoying each other's company. If I could get a mount for free by marrying my friend, so be it. People would ask. "Aw are you two married?" 99% of the responses would be, "Naw, just wanted the free mount lol."

I welcome the cash shop addition for the actual Eternal Bonding benefits. It makes more sense, and it makes it actually mean something like in FFXI.

In FFXI you had to apply for a Wedding, and a GM would personally lock people out of an area to hold your wedding. You had to wait months for the process to be completed, and it felt like a personal party.

The Gold is for the dedicated people who really wanted marriage in-game, and the Standard are for people who truly want to be married in game, but not pay for it.