Eternal Bond - Standard Plan and Gold Plan

[AggieRick]

This is hardly "gateing content" the event is freely available. The 2 person mount is a luxury for now you either pay for it or wait for them to release a free one.

Comparing this to pay to raid is extreme and alarmist. If it came to that yes I would complain so would anyone else but this is just more glamour.

The 2 person mounts lost a lot of appeal when colored chocobos came out and more so when hunting died. I do understand the frustration for those that skipped the refer a friend to hopefully get one free from eternal bonding. But as I said you can just pay or wait. Granted I do not see any reason for them to ever make 2 person mounts attainable. I expect next we will see 2 person flying mount in expansion.

[Riepah]

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The difference is just that you happen to care about raiding more than glamour, while people who care more about glamour than raiding get screwed over. Trust me, there are people who would say it's perfectly fine if the situations were reversed here, and you were screwed out of your free raids, while they kept their free glamour. And they'd be no more in the right than you are.

[Shinun]

The difference is just that you happen to care about raiding more than glamour, while people who care more about glamour than raiding get screwed over. Trust me, there are people who would say it's perfectly fine if the situations were reversed here, and you were screwed out of your free raids, while they kept their free glamour. And they'd be no more in the right than you are.

I agree with this post. Glamour is a big deal to a lot of people to the point where it's more important then raiding. All glamour options should be part of the free plan. Having the mounts/minions part of the premium plan is fine.

[AggieRick]

I can't wait to tell my FC that I care about raids more than glamour. I have only been in t7 1 time(have not beat it). i have only beat t6 3 times and none until it was nerfed. I spend enough on items to glamour that I could have a top tier crafter but I waste my money changing my appearance maybe 4-5 a month per class. I have died in HM primal fights because i had my camera too close due to pure vanity and desire to see myself.

I am sorry that the game has not allowed you to escape from the have and the have nots of the real world. Write it into your fanfiction.

I am all for Square making as much money as they can I hope XIV becomes the central pillar of their income and funds every other project they take on. If it keeps the game running and the board members form pulling its resources I am for it.

[Riepah]

I am all for Square making as much money as they can I hope XIV becomes the central pillar of their income and funds every other project they take on. If it keeps the game running and the board members form pulling its resources I am for it.

And somehow you seem to believe that they won't try to nickel and dime you with their other projects afterwards, because they'll have made enough money from FFXIV, hmm?

[Hysterior]

I want to do eternal bound just for clothes and mount... a bit bummed about being charged... will see how much it costs...

[SpookyGhost]

Comparing this to pay to raid is extreme and alarmist. If it came to that yes I would complain so would anyone else but this is just more glamour.

You say that, but do you know how many people in XIV actually raid? Very little. I'm pretty sure more people care about what the minority considers "vanity" than raiding as a whole. If they did put a price on raiding, there would be complaining from the vocal minority on the forums, but everyone else would stay silent. SE putting a price tag on things the majority cares about is a bad idea for a sub based game - putting a price tag on raids would actually affect less people than what is currently happening.

[AggieRick]

You say that, but do you know how many people in XIV actually raid? Very little..

I think you mistook raiding for world first competition. To say very few people raid is wildly inaccurate. I consider raiding just another way to get glamour gear and further the story. Casual raiding is still raiding and if SE wanted us to pay for it more than a minority would be against it.

I find it amusing that you would use the phrase Vocal Minority in your argument when the odin mount has made it pretty clear plenty are willing to throw SE cash for items. I do not deny it is a cash grab, as I said I do not have a problem with the company that makes my game making money of of those willing to give it.

I wish i had the screen shots for the comparison in the items they are not that different they made the items red so you could see the subtle differences. If they had been white you may not have even noticed.

[SpookyGhost]

I think you mistook raiding for world first competition. To say very few people raid is wildly inaccurate.

Nope, meant that pretty literally. A drastically small % of people have stepped foot into the first Coil, or made it past Turn 1. Even less have cleared T5. It's really the minority doing any sort of raiding.

I don't know how the Odin mount has made it clear plenty are willing to throw SE cash for items. Were there sales figures released or something? If there was, I'd like to see them. I'm interested in how the whole cash shop thing is going vs the amount of people that unsubbed over it. It's also interesting that you think the game will stay afloat due to the cash shop. Usually a cash shop is a sign that the game is struggling. Usually when a cash shop is introduced it's because the game is heading to F2P. Usually when a game becomes F2P it loses all the appeal it had when it was sub based.

But I digress. I understand this argument, that "you aren't going to buy anything from the cash shop so all those idiots out there who do are just helping keep your game alive!" That's an understandable mentality, but not an educated one. TERA is a fine example of how a fantastic game went down hill very quickly and became more cash shop focused than gameplay focused. When the cash shop starts taking away from things you like about the game, that's when you'll dislike it - until then it doesn't affect you so you don't care. Which is cool, but do keep in mind that you aren't the majority and that's really just how YOU feel.

[Ashgarth]

This is hardly "gateing content" the event is freely available. The 2 person mount is a luxury for now you either pay for it or wait for them to release a free one.
If it came to that yes I would complain so would anyone else but this is just more glamour.
But as I said you can just pay or wait.

The question is: Why the hell do we have to pay for stuff in a game with a monthly subscription?

How long until Deluxe houses you can only get from the cash shop? Or armor/weapon skins? Alternate versions of items, emotes, hairstyles, an airship you can ride with other people? FC Banners, Capes and an endless list of things.

None of the things i've listed is "game breaking" its all glamour or optional stuff but, why the actual fck am I paying a subscription if they are going to shove down our throats the same cash shop a F2P has?