The Discrimination Factor of Solo/party to Casual/Hardcore respectively.

[Mugiwara]

And there's the rub: It was marketed to people with little time - Guildleves.

Yes, it's changing and moving away from guildleves now. But does that mean that all the people with less time that purchased the game before these changes should be SOL? I don't think so at all.

It's not an outlandish request that the developers not forget the group that exists within the MMO genre that have full-time jobs, kids, etc., especially when those people bought the game expecting content that can be jumped right into and enjoyed without needing to dedicate your life to it. An easy and streamlined grouping system is just one aspect where the timesink can be removed.

MMos are designed in a way that you dump enormous amounts of time into while playing. Hence, MMOs usually never ends. Why would you remove most time sinks in a game? You want to drastically decrease the life of the game? WOW's dev team is most likely huge when compared to SE's so they can keep up with constant streams of content to push out. SE can't and I don't need examples for this. This is why WOW is able to have fewer time sinks.

Second Point, "Streamlined" is a fancy word for dumbing down something. I have a full time job as well so when I can't play, I can't play. I don't expect the game to make time for me. Grow up and take responsibility for the time you have. You made the choice to invest time you didn't have. Don't be a self-entitled baby because you don't have as much time as everyone else.

[Masaiyan]

I am just going to fill in that even on WoW, with it's simplified dungeon tool (that took a couple of years to implement into the game mind you) people with 30mins-ish usually end up leaving their group leaving said group to wait for replacement. And if said person was a tank or healer, even with auto find getting a replacement would still take some time if you're unlucky. With this said, WoW pugging isn't really that much of a "quick process" either. It also means putting little effort into going into Dunegons etc will make players sorta half-assed. Because in the end they didn't need to put much effort down, and you also get to see a lot of asshats.

This is Final Fantasy XIV, not Wow. The community is much different and their actions are proof of this. As well your using 1 alias not multiple character toons like in WOW. Eventually people catch on to whose a douche and who is not and eventually black list such people. On another hand, who says SE can't implement such a system with perhaps a punishment for someone leaving. In wow if you leave you cant re-queue for 30mins. Maybe if SE did it, you can't re-queue for 5hours.

People. Find solutions to problems. Give your critism but also your ideas. This is construction. Not demolition.

[Crica]

Don't be a self-entitled baby because you don't have as much time as everyone else.

What?

I log on and have an hour to play with the linkshell.

The linkshell is going to do a dungeon in 5 mins and has room for me.

I am 15mins away, however.

A port to the dungeon would enable me to be able to play with them with the 1 hour I have instead of traveling away 15mins of the 1 hour I have.

It's not about entitlement, it's about being able to play with the time you have.

It makes SENSE to give players with less time the ability to insta-travel, that way they do not have to spend the majority of their limited game time traveling to get to the places that all of the other players who have lots of gametime can get to w/o having to use any insta-traveling options and still be able to play together.

And SE recognizes this, unlike players like you, thankfully.

Again, it boils down to if SE wants casual gamer's money, they will continue to cater to the limited game time casuals have, regardless of what players who have alot of gametime think.

Don't have to use the options just because they are in the game.

Walk if you want, while players with little game time insta-travel and meet you there when they can log on.

[Noir]

The fact that even 4 people liked this comment proves how elitist and snobbish the average forum goers are in this community

Yes, people are jealous. If you work hard and play well, you should be able to do everything in a game. That was what sold me to ffxiv. Because to be like every other MMO which only big clans monopolize stuff, and areas, farming for rmt, I wouldn't have given my money to it. Guess what, because of whiners like those mentiOned above, we are going towards that path. Sad SE.

[Masaiyan]

Because to be like every other MMO which only big clans monopolize stuff, and areas, farming for rmt, I wouldn't have given my money to it. Guess what, because of whiners like those mentiOned above, we are going towards that path. Sad SE.

Survival of the fittest. Right now FFXIV is surviving on Hope. If they want a good game, they'll have to get with the times and implement either COMPLETELY NEW systems that work(which the current one does not) or copy and re-master all ready existing ones( Like they could've done).

Honestly FFXI seek party invite yada yada system worked, but I'm sure I can find an old ass 1990 car that works okay too. But I much rather have a new 2011 honda which runs much smoother and has good mileage.

Sorry for the car analogy, just having some fun.
My point is not to bash FFXI party system or the current FFXIV party system, but I'm trying to say FFXIV needs to get with the times and implement a modern more powerful system. The game can handle it and I'm sure modern day server technology can. 2011.

Excuse my boldness

[nibelunc]

I dont like.
Just add a party flag like it was in FFXI or find something different.
Dont need more automatic fastest random mode.

[zaviermhigo]

If you want a larger playerbase, then you're looking for: people who don't care about the lore, people who don't care about the graphics, and people who don't care about other people. If you want more subs than FFXI, then they should of made this game a shitty graphic 5 versus 5 pvp game, like League of Legends, because that game rapes in users. But those users are kids, and imo they suck. They do, they are the same people we complain about who are ruining the community, but what people don't get is some XI players are just like that. Selflessness in an mmo died in 2008, doubt it will come back. If they want to mass appeal this game though, the community will never be great and we'll always complain about "me first and the gimmie gimmies" lol

[Masaiyan]

I do agree the FFXI and FFXIV communities are great! We have a lot of cool people, but why bash the community of every game out there?
I've played a shit ton of MMO games, and I can't stand when people make such outrageous claims about other MMO communities. It's like racism of MMORPGS. Yes I admit, there are more immature people on games like WOW, but at same time the majority of them are still awesome, likewise for most games.
The FFXIV community has been degrading greatly with the wave of elitist ignorant people. Open your eyes ladies and gentlemen, your not that special just because you play FFXIV. Your a gamer like everyone else have some respect.
Just because if they implement a system used in WOW, does not mean we will start acting like the stereotypes describe them to be. If they may be true or not.

[TypeZ]

Hello FFXIV players,

-The concept
After reading through countless post on the forums about how solo play and content is great for the casual player and how partying up and playing with your friends is generally for hardcore players who have more time to spend, I find myself confused to the concept. I have played countless MMOS and argumentatively speaking I think it is absurd to say that party play/ hardcore content is and should be reserved for people with a lot of time to play the game. Although there is some truth to this as in FFXI you were generally in a party for at least 2hours, since it could be time consuming to find and create one, but that is where FFXIV should be different as it can incorporate new ideas. So hear me out!

---The Understanding
A prime example of this which many of you will crucify me for bringing this up is: World of warcraft's dungeon finder system. For any of you who have played WOW you would know that the dungeon system is a great way for even casual players to find other people to join up with and play with for a casual or hardcore amount of time.
How it works is that you open up the dungeon finder menu and you queue up and within seconds or a few minutes, you’re automatically partied up and teleported to a dungeon with you’re randomly found party members.
This concept in no way can be disqualified as casual or hardcore play. It's both one and the second at the same time. I believe the statement of a casual player and a hardcore player should not be THE METHOD in which they play BUT the time in which they have to play.
The methods should be the same, but the repetitions of such method would be based on the time you have.

---Conclusion
I bring all this up because, I am hoping maybe a Dev will read this and be inspired by it, and secondly I think it is a bad direction to separate the game into two (Solo and Hardcore player content). Rather the game should be morphed on accessibility for both to play and enjoy the same content, and the only separating factor should be the time you’re willing to spend on such things.

Note: In no way am I saying that Final Fantasy XIV should be more like WOW or any other game. I play FFxiv because it is unique. I am merely trying to bring up a valid point that I believe many of the Devs and people of the MMO communities are misunderstanding. After all there are two types of definitions. Concrete and abstract, and in no way can this be defined as a concrete thing, thus the definition is for interpretation.

Se should close this post, He said WOW...stop trying to make SE implement any WOW ideas here. You WOW people already force them to add dungeon/raids... please get off the forum with these lame ideas or things u want.

[Chain]

For the love of god PLEASE don't turn this game into a clone of WoWs content system. Random dungeon finder is awful and has ruined the sense of community in WoW. (this is fact, not an opinion) I think anyone that played FFXI for any time at all would agree that the community feeling in that game was something special that you cannot find in other MMOs.

I'm not saying this game has to be an FFXI clone either, but I think many of us, if not the majority of us came to this game seeking something different, or at the least seeking the same gameplay and feeling that XI gave us.

Looking back I can remember the feeling of being some of the first NA to get Sea access, and the epicness of beating the harder COP battles. It took alot of teamwork and planning. It's not something you can achieve by just throwing groups of people together randomly.

Just so people understand, I'm not one of the whiners that hates change, I love the addition of side quests, moving content to instanced zones, auto attack etc. The game has to make steps to remedy the failings of XI but at the same time it needs to keep the same aura that XI had as well, this is a SE game, not a Blizzard or Trion or any other designers game. There's nothing wrong with being casual and nothing wrong with asking for some casual content but in cases like this I see it as extreme. If you don't have the time to play or the will to create friends and groups then you don't have to do that content, it couldn't be any more clear.

Please keep this game epic!!