Locked out of the Duty Finder.

[Niwashi]

SE you should not penalize your players for withdrawing or missing a queue. It is very unnecessary and turns off players. The penalty for being afk should be you missed your queue and have to wait again.

It's true that for many players that's in fact the main "penalty" now, but the problem is that it's a penalty that applies to some players and not others. So the 30 minute penalty that SE added on top of it was to make it a little more equal between different players. Until that 30 minute penalty was added, tanks could (and many did) just continually queue-withdraw-queue-withdraw-queue-withdraw-queue-withdraw over and over again, because missing a queue wasn't a penalty for classes that get instant queues.

One possibility might be to make the time lost from the queue count towards the 30-minute penalty. So if someone gets an instant queue and withdraws, they have a 30 minute penalty imposed. If someone is in queue for 20 minutes and then withdraws, they have a 10 minute penalty imposed. If someone is in queue for 30 minutes or more, and then withdraws, there's no additional penalty. That would be because having lost their place in queue has already cost them more than 30 minutes, and that inherent "penalty" has all the deterrent effect of an imposed one.

Many people have posted better alternatives to the system that was implemented. As in not showing in progress runs, letting the queue go through with everyone that clicked ect.

I certainly agree that players should not be shown the progress of a run until they've actually entered it.

However, the idea of starting instances without the full group present adds other problems. If a DPS player can team up with a tank to get an instant queue, but the tank doesn't enter the instance, then the DPS player has just cut in line by getting the priority of an existing instance that's short of players. Only players who actually enter the instance should be considered when deciding who the DF groups together, and that means having it decide the full group at once (as it does now).

Nyaraku. We know what you think.

Yes, and we know what you think, too, so stop harassing her. Some of the rest of us would like to have an actual discussion that's not continually interrupted by your desire to throw personal insults.