Duty Finder queues are too damn long!

[KIka93]

Here's a fix: Yoshida tends to the lower level content and adds some more means for people to get exp across the board. Leves are abyssmal in the later half of the leveling process, and FATEs are a straight up zerg fest in north thanalan. It's between levels 15-40(ish) that need some kind of attention. People want to level, not sit around in queue times.


Edit: I took a look at the people laughing at others complaining about DPS, that's a nice assortment of DPS classes you have leveled you assholes, you're no better than those scum bag elitists on FFXI "If it was hard for me, don't fix it because I'll get mad, MUH NUHSTALGERRRR"

[NyarukoW]

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Edit: I took a look at the people laughing at others complaining about DPS, that's a nice assortment of DPS classes you have leveled you assholes, you're no better than those scum bag elitists on FFXI "If it was hard for me, don't fix it because I'll get mad, MUH NUHSTALGERRRR"

This total utter garbage. While people can be more empathetic and understanding, the shortage of tanks and healers is not the fault of elitists or elitists attitudes, and I have many gripe with them but this not one of them. To have more tanks and healers so that the queues are not congested by the lack of them (healers/tanks) requires players to be more understanding, empathetic, and inclusive. SE can not fix the problem of not enough players playing tanks or healers, this is on the players themselves.

[Janhyua]

This total utter garbage. While people can be more empathetic and understanding, the shortage of tanks and healers is not the fault of elitists or elitists attitudes. To have more tanks and healers so that the queues are not congested by the lack of them requires players to be more understanding, empathetic, and inclusive. SE can not fix the problem of not enough players playing tanks or healers, this is on the players themselves.

It's true but SE has fail to make tank and healer to be interesting to the player themselves serious I hope dark knight has some crazy shit funz or else same shit going to happen again cause no body going to play it even thou is a new class cause is faking boring hit 50 and gg

[Tiggy]

To have more tanks and healers so that the queues are not congested by the lack of them (healers/tanks) requires players to be more understanding, empathetic, and inclusive.

Hah. So it's empathetic to take all the time and effort to level, gear and learn to play a job you dislike?
So it's understanding to take all the time and effort to level, gear and learn to play a job you dislike?
So it's inclusive to take all the time and effort to level, gear and learn to play a job you dislike?

This...this exemplifies how you really don't care about what individuals want to do at all. You literally seem to expect them to do whatever it takes for other people to enjoy the game despite themselves. You even go so far as you insinuate that by failing to do so they aren't compassionate, understanding, or empathetic. This is the most ridiculous display of entitlement for the valuable time of others that I've literally ever seen. It's not your time, and it in no way reflects how empathetic, understanding, or inclusive a player is because they don't like tanking or healing.

Every player isn't out to heal the sins of the world like some sort of MMO-Jesus, and they shouldn't be expected to martyr themselves for other players either.

Tanking needs to be more fun to do so that people enjoy it more. I tanked for a solid year in end game and now I'm done because it's simply not that rewarding compared to other classes. The stats are boring, the gameplay is boring, and the metagame for tanking was very boring in the second coil. This is a game issue. Not an issue with players refusing to be helpful, compassionate, understanding, or inclusive.

[Prototype909]

For every player that hates the prospect of tanking you're going to find another that still enjoys it. Ultimately the worst part of tanking (For me) is that at the end of the day the tank is dealing with usually the least mechanics out of anyone (In a majority of fights) and inevitably you're going to settle into your role and be forced to sit as a spectator as the rest of your group figures things out in progression groups. THAT is the worst part about tanking in this game, being forced to witness the "bottle-neck" of the progression and being powerless to actual influence anything going on outside of keeping yourself alive because even if you do your job properly everyone else is still just as vulnerable to dying to things that aren't within your control.

They already tried to add incentive to tanking with the mounts and DF queue bonuses (Which are almost always for tanks), I don't see much else that can be done about it. It doesn't help that Paladin is probably the most vanilla job in the game with 1 and 1/2 of a combo. It's a conscious player base decision, as well as a requirement of the game that there are more DPS than other roles. If you add new jobs it doesn't change the party make-up, it doesn't even guarantee that people will play those jobs outside of the initial burst. Before Ninja came out these issues existed even when the Tank-Healer-DPS ratio was more even, Ninja has obviously made things worse rather than better but the issue was already there.

[Janhyua]

For every player that hates the prospect of tanking you're going to find another that still enjoys it. Ultimately the worst part of tanking (For me) is that at the end of the day the tank is dealing with usually the least mechanics out of anyone (In a majority of fights) and inevitably you're going to settle into your role and be forced to sit as a spectator as the rest of your group figures things out in progression groups. THAT is the worst part about tanking in this game, being forced to witness the "bottle-neck" of the progression and being powerless to actual influence anything going on outside of keeping yourself alive because even if you do your job properly everyone else is still just as vulnerable to dying to things that aren't within your control.

Worst tanking of my life is turn 7 omg that fight as MT make me want to bleed my eyes out

[Alukah]

Tanking needs to be more fun to do so that people enjoy it more. I tanked for a solid year in end game and now I'm done because it's simply not that rewarding compared to other classes. The stats are boring, the gameplay is boring, and the metagame for tanking was very boring in the second coil. This is a game issue. Not an issue with players refusing to be helpful, compassionate, understanding, or inclusive.

QFT

For every player that hates the prospect of tanking you're going to find another that still enjoys it. Ultimately the worst part of tanking (For me) is that at the end of the day the tank is dealing with usually the least mechanics out of anyone (In a majority of fights) and inevitably you're going to settle into your role and be forced to sit as a spectator as the rest of your group figures things out in progression groups. THAT is the worst part about tanking in this game, being forced to witness the "bottle-neck" of the progression and being powerless to actual influence anything going on outside of keeping yourself alive because even if you do your job properly everyone else is still just as vulnerable to dying to things that aren't within your control.

They already tried to add incentive to tanking with the mounts and DF queue bonuses (Which are almost always for tanks), I don't see much else that can be done about it. It doesn't help that Paladin is probably the most vanilla job in the game with 1 and 1/2 of a combo. It's a conscious player base decision, as well as a requirement of the game that there are more DPS than other roles. If you add new jobs it doesn't change the party make-up, it doesn't even guarantee that people will play those jobs outside of the initial burst. Before Ninja came out these issues existed even when the Tank-Healer-DPS ratio was more even, Ninja has obviously made things worse rather than better but the issue was already there.

Those incentives for tanks are lacking to say the least. Excluding the mounts as you can't get them by doing low level dungeons, I have yet to touch low level roulette since 2.4 as either healer or tank, because I could do anything else and get by far better rewards, 7500 gil is nothing, I spend more than that just teleporting in a day, and a potential 40 minutes long run is not worth 60 soldiery and 5 poetics (seriously, 5 poetics?) it's no wonder why there's a lack of tanks and healers doing low level dungeons.

I agree with your post either way.

[NyarukoW]

... Not an issue with players refusing to be helpful, compassionate, understanding, or inclusive.

Really? Yet people are afraid to tank. You get people cussing out tanks for not keeping aggro because some BLM wants to triple flare, or some bard insists on being top of the DPS/aggro meter. Level synced and in low level dungeons cussing out new tanks and potential future tanks happens all too often. And telling them to "deal with it" is just blaming the victims for verbal abuse. And if people are not yelling at tanks, then they are cussing at healers for not being able to support their massive pulls and not speed running, and sometimes it is not even the tank pulling big, but the dps aggro extras on their own.

[KIka93]

This total utter garbage. While people can be more empathetic and understanding, the shortage of tanks and healers is not the fault of elitists or elitists attitudes, and I have many gripe with them but this not one of them. To have more tanks and healers so that the queues are not congested by the lack of them (healers/tanks) requires players to be more understanding, empathetic, and inclusive. SE can not fix the problem of not enough players playing tanks or healers, this is on the players themselves.

The shortage of tanks and healers is also taken out on people who have already maxed their tank class out. My PLD is lvl 50, I (and probably many many others) want to play other classes aside from Tank/Healer. We weren't subscribing to this game to play what people forced us to play, if that's the case then I'd rather just go play another MMO.

[NyarukoW]

.... We weren't subscribing to this game to play what people forced us to play, if that's the case then I'd rather just go play another MMO.

Well then you better have some good friends who like to play tank, otherwise you got to wait in line for the next available. It is a team game, sometimes you got make sacrifices for the team, but it you insist on being solo, then YMMV.