Spellcasting in PvP

[Dimitrii]

Uhhh your kinda proving his point lol, You're the one saying a blm is stand alone over powered when hes saying his best game isnt even better than others jobs. I don't get why SE has such a hard on for continuously cutting blm down when its clear other jobs like YOU said do much much more.

The guy has no point with that screenshot cause if his point is that blm should be buffed cause they can't deal 200k dmg over the entirety of a match like summoner can I'm gonna have to retract my statement about his apples to oranges comparison on the ways smn and blm deal dmg being the most asinine thing I've heard him say, cause this would be worse. Are we also gonna buff monk, ninja, dragoon and bard too? Cause they cant reach 200k dmg either. The summoner in the screenshot had 100k dmg but notice how many kills he ended up with? Summoners can dish out huge amounts of dmg in the LONG TERM but lack the punch that is needed to consistently kill ppl off without use of their pvp ability and enkindle which carry significant recast times.

You're the one saying a blm is stand alone over powered.

I don't know where you are getting this idea that I said blm is a stand alone overpowered job cause if anything I have been saying the exact opposite. A blm alone (one on one) is weak. However combine a blm with other skilled blm or a party that utilizes a blm effectively and they become the most terrifying dps in pvp. Have you ever read any posts in the pvp forums claiming how scary an all monk, all drg, or all brd dps party can be? My bet is no but I'll bet you probably have read or heard of how scary an all blm party can be. There is a reason blms are right up there near healers as high priority MUST KILL targets. No other dps is feared like this (save for monk when it comes to schs). And I only ever said blm would be overpowered if and only if they were allowed to free cast (as in casting through physical dmg) while still retaining ALL of their current attack potency and cc abilities.

I don't get why SE has such a hard on for continuously cutting blm down when its clear other jobs like YOU said do much much more.

Why are you underestimating the job so much? Other jobs can do much more? Blm possess arguably the greatest arsenal of cc abilities out of all the jobs while still dishing out overwhelming amounts of dmg in a short period of time should they be ignored. The only dps that has no special trait, quality, or utility about them is drg. Monks can strip your buffs, plds can stunlock you, smns can accumulate tons of dmg across numerous targets, blms have sleep, warrior have high survivability and the ability to nerf your heals received. Meanwhile the most notable trait drg possess are their horrendous magic defense. Yet I don't see the threads of outrage calling for a buff of drg nearly as much (truth be told I havent seen one at all) as these blm threads pop up.

[Atreus]

Meanwhile the most notable trait drg possess are their horrendous magic defense. Yet I don't see the threads of outrage calling for a buff of drg nearly as much (truth be told I havent seen one at all) as these blm threads pop up.

Agreed with pretty much every point, though I'm pretty sure DRG's crappy magic defense doesn't translate into PvP with how defense is removed as a stat. So that's a plus right? 8D Certainly could use more utility though, but that's another thread.

[Dimitrii]

DRG's crappy magic defense doesn't translate into PvP with how defense is removed as a stat. So that's a plus right? 8D Certainly could use more utility though, but that's another thread.

Yeah I believe you're right so that at least is a plus. Its hard to tell though cause a blm's nuke hurts either way lol.

[Zagam]

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Like a few are starting to see you really are talking out your ass. And for someone who plays a lot you sure don't pay attention, I've fought with you and against you for hundreds of matches, I only play blm in pvp but yet you want to sit their and be condescending? And I know you play bard but that doesn't mean a bard cant reach 200k, maybe you should actually look at the scores after a match, there are a few bards on primal that break 150-200k regularly, same with smn, but yet blm somehow is the big bad monster. Blm is the ONLY job that is fundamentally nerfed before even setting in but that doesn't stop me from playing it, and yes when im left alone I break records easily but if you let a blm cast you deserve it. But lets take SC away because thats just too much, lets nerf scathe because blm is just to powerful running now?

Honestly I agree with some and disagree with other points you make but you really need to stop being so arrogant.

[kisada]

Like a few are starting to see you really are talking out your ass. And for someone who plays a lot you sure don't pay attention, I've fought with you and against you for hundreds of matches, I only play blm in pvp but yet you want to sit their and be condescending? And I know you play bard but that doesn't mean a bard cant reach 200k, maybe you should actually look at the scores after a match, there are a few bards on primal that break 150-200k regularly, same with smn, but yet blm somehow is the big bad monster. Blm is the ONLY job that is fundamentally nerfed before even setting in but that doesn't stop me from playing it, and yes when im left alone I break records easily but if you let a blm cast you deserve it. But lets take SC away because thats just too much, lets nerf scathe because blm is just to powerful running now?

Honestly I agree with some and disagree with other points you make but you really need to stop being so arrogant.

No blm i know that's worth their salt would consider themselves anything but overpowered. Literally every blm i pre-party with and go into wd or fl goes in thinking they are dominant. This narrative that blms are at a fundamental disadvantage completely ignores the words "trade-off" over and over. People just need to know what they are doing, and for pvp that generally means converting your role from pure DD into support/finisher.


BRD loses a ton of effectiveness without buffs. SMN is actually super OP but their finishing/damage abilities take a huge hit without aetherflow stacks. But BLM isn't hindered by that and they have the ability to ramp up extremely quickly if the opposing team is dumb enough not to key in on them. Again, it's about trade-offs, not classes being fundamentally disadvantaged.