So Second Coil has been destroyed

[Mardel]

Personally, I don't care about the nerfs done to Second Coil, it's whatever at this point. What bothers me more is people in here saying "want a challenge do savage." Savage is an entirely different beast, with enough gear many of the mechanics can be cheesed but it is mechanically different and outside the achievement there is little incentive to do it, even more so now. A majority of people have no issue with echo, in fact it makes fights a bit more entertaining seeing how fast you can push.

Second annoyance is that nerfing something to the ground doesn't help the player base too much. Sure they can now get SCOB gear easier, but then they will be stuck until this happens for FCOB. This is because the mechanics people learn to handle in BCOB/SCOB help with FCOB and future raids. Giving people a free pass will only hurt them in the end when they try out for a FCOB PF/Static and can't handle simple mechanics. People can blame one shot mechanics all they want but something has to be able to kill us/penalize us for making grave mistakes otherwise why bother being a "warrior of light"?

Finally, I have come to the conclusion that from 3.0 onward they just need to make story mode for fights. That way people can enter, auto attack a boss and watch the story from their character's PoV and normal content doesn't have to go through this again. (No loot)

[ReplicaX]

The designers of these fights must be drinking pretty heavily right now after seeing something they carefully built torn to shreds.

Either a poor troll comment or just general poor statement detaching from your main argument.

These designers have known since the Original Development of ARR that they were designing content that once becomes dated would be adjusted in difficulty. This is a model the Team decided on to begin with. I feel more than 7 months from 4 Arena Boss fights of deaths and struggle from players and being paid is enough satisfaction.

Your dislike and main argument is with the Dev Team's model, not against players that accept the Team's decision. You had 7 months to farm this content, the Dev Team feels it should be open to more players based on their data and also past practice of said model.

[CGMidlander]

Some of the mechanic nerfs make sense from a DF standpoint. Renauds hitting like wet noodles for parties without ranged DPS is one.

But things like Blighted Bouquet & Discipline are piss easy to deal with and I'm not sure what the benefit of nerfing them can be, except to make players bad/lazy at dealing with simple mechanics.

[jars]

holy crap shut up

no one cares

this content is OLD

OLD

CONTENT

GO DO FCOB

[Vespar]

Wow, I wake up today and this thread is now 49 pages long of complaining. C'mon we got over Turn1-5 being adjusted, you can get over this. I really hope SE locks this thread as it has not been a productive discussion but rather just a whine thead.

[Tiggy]

C'mon we got over Turn1-5 being adjusted

If I remember correctly the only adjustment to 1-5 was the weakening of ADS's paralyze ability. So to be completely fair this is a much bigger adjustment than what happened before.

[Luvbunny]

Yeah let's hope SE flatly ignores this thread, nothing but complaints and self sense of entitlements and being elitist. I applaud what SE did, as always they know who exactly the type of players that pay for subscriptions. And very glad they focus on the casual first and foremost.

[Kaze3434]

Wow, I wake up today and this thread is now 49 pages long of complaining. C'mon we got over Turn1-5 being adjusted, you can get over this. I really hope SE locks this thread as it has not been a productive discussion but rather just a whine thead.

with t1-5 it was "easy" to get over because most of it was largely unchanged. t6 and t7 however, have been made easier than t1(not my opinion). case in point: for blighted, everyone except tanks keep attacking. one Cure III+Succor will get everyone back up. havent tested it myself yet, but if you go fast enough, you may be able to skip having a bee get summoned also.
t7 facing away barely matters anymore, except for avoiding giving the boss stacks. renauds hit for about the same that regen tics for (4-500) so just let healers grab em or let them wander around.

[Ophie-Mio]

Yeah let's hope SE flatly ignores this thread, nothing but complaints and self sense of entitlements and being elitist. I applaud what SE did, as always they know who exactly the type of players that pay for subscriptions. And very glad they focus on the casual first and foremost.

Wow, no. I've seen so many casuals come and go and stop giving SE their money. Hardcore/more serious casuals are the ones that keep giving their money over and over again. Not every casual wants wins given to them. Some casuals/hardcore want to be lazy and that's who they gave these turns to. Some like to work for it too beyond just opening it up.

[Zarzak]

Yeah let's hope SE flatly ignores this thread, nothing but complaints and self sense of entitlements and being elitist. I applaud what SE did, as always they know who exactly the type of players that pay for subscriptions. And very glad they focus on the casual first and foremost.

Yeah let's hope SE flatly ignores this post, nothing but complaints and self sense of entitlements and being casual. I applaud your type, as always you know exactly what to say to sound like an incompetent player who can't do anything without it being handed to you. And very impressed someone can be that incapable and entitled.


Love how you talk about people being entitled when your the one who thinks your entitled to have content nerfed until you can do it no matter how little effort you choose to put into it.